Should Ricky Hatton get credit if he beats Pacquiao?

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I should get credited. But he is not Beating Manny Pacquiao

[them_apples]

odds of him winning are 0

[The Hammer]

I was on this forum saying Castillo was shot before Hatton was fighting him!!! Screenname would have been elitesoldier, jayfelice, godofwar,godofwarII around that time. Just wanted to point that out tunney

I remember you well, Elite Soldier. I was here at that time with a different account as well.

But what I meant was, the so-called "experts" at Ring Magazine had Castillo as the #10 p4p at the time, and few if any except for you were saying he was shot. They were not saying he was shot until AFTER Hatton won that fight.

[reptar]

odds of him winning are 0

Thats just a dumb thing to say. How can a man whos the king of his division and only ever been beaten of by far the best boxer of this generation not have a chance against a man who has knocked out twice of average fighters and been beaten 3 times in all. Its also questionable regards his fights with jmm. Hattons only other close fight was against collazo who would also beat pacman
To say Hatton has 0 chance of beating pacman is pathetic

[The Hammer]

Thats just a dumb thing to say. How can a man whos the king of his division and only ever been beaten of by far the best boxer of this generation not have a chance against a man who has knocked out twice of average fighters and been beaten 3 times in all. Its also questionable regards his fights with jmm. Hattons only other close fight was against collazo who would also beat pacman
To say Hatton has 0 chance of beating pacman is pathetic

Hatton's chances are definitely a lot better than "0"...

[Benny Leonard]

To an intelligent person, it seems like a silly question.

However, you can bet there will those who will say "Pacquiao is smaller" if Hatton wins, that's why.

Nobody said Castillo or Tszyu were shot until after Hatton defeated them! The Max Kellermans and Erik Raskins of this world cannot sleep nights with the thought of Ricky Hatton being considered an elite fighter. They will NEVER give he or Calzaghe any credit no matter what.

Not true: Zab Judah, Showtime Commentators, and many others were calling Tszyu past his prime way before he met Hatton. Nobody was really sure how he would fair against Mitchell in the return bout and favored Sharmba...even though Sharmba was fading himself. But what happens; as usual, a big KO clouds the previous talks. It always reminds me of that fight with Tyson vs. Botha when the commentator was saying something like "He just can't get his punches off; that's the mark of a shot fighter"....and then BAM! Tyson lands a knockout blow and people afterwards were once again claiming Tyson was "back" and stood a chance to beat Lewis.

Even Hatton's team, mainly Ricky, was saying that the Tszyu vs. Mitchell fight didn't give us enough proof Tszyu was back because it was over so quickly. What it did show us was that Tszyu had his power...at least for that fight.

I wasn't sure what was going to happen come fight night...just like I wasn't sure with Oscar...but I did know to acknowledge the possibilities of them showing their age; to show up "Flat." Why? Because History has shown us this happens. If it is not this fight, it may be the next. but like the fighters, I am still thinking they still have to have something left to put up a good fight. I think most people never expect a fighter can go from being 75% to flat-line in just one fight.


And wasn't there an interview with Paulie saying Castillo was basically "shot"?

There were so posters on this board that said Castillo and Corrales will never be the same after their fights. And if you look at the previous fight he had prior to Hatton, he didn't look good at all...which posters mentioned after that fight and said Castillo didn't look right.

Calzaghe will get credit for his career up to Kessler....after that, Hopkins, somewhat...but no way with a shot Roy Jones Jr. There is no arguing with Roy.

[The Hammer]

Calzaghe will get credit for his career up to Kessler....

Not from haters like you. You'll find a "reason" to discredit every win...

No one said Lacy was **** until after Calzaghe schooled him...in fact, most of the so-called "experts" were picking Jeff to win.

Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell, Sheika, Bika, etc were good fighters, but people like you let your hatred cloud your thinking, and so you will never give Joe credit no matter what.

[Fearless BONG]

Of course he should be given credit if ever he beats Pacman.

[Benny Leonard]

Not from haters like you. You'll find a "reason" to discredit every win...

No one said Lacy was **** until after Calzaghe schooled him...in fact, most of the so-called "experts" were picking Jeff to win.

Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell, Sheika, Bika, etc were good fighters, but people like you let your hatred cloud your thinking, and so you will never give Joe credit no matter what.

How am I a "hater"?

I gave credit to Calzaghe for whipping Lacy's ass...even though my posts before the fight called him overrated. The credit to him was that I still saw Lacy as a good fighter, just not "great" like everybody was saying. And not
only did Calzaghe beat Lacy, but he out-performed what I thought he could do...which was a major plus.

Then, I gave him credit for Kessler. I only saw two fights prior of Kessler and thought he was a good fighter, but I admitted I didn't know how good...but since Steward claimed he was a very good fighter, I added that in....SO, it was another good win. That's two big wins and an undefeated record.

Hopkins and Roy are a different story.

I also said Calzaghe is going to the HOF...how is that hate?


If there was something I had against Calzaghe...yes: He stayed at 168 and never moved up to challenge Roy in his prime. Hell, many don't talk about it, but since people say "well Roy wouldn't have given him a fight anyway," well why didn't Joe fight Darius then?
Let me guess: Because Joe wasn't at 175. Well; Roy wasn't at 168 either so get off the b.s. that Roy avoided a fighter that was fighting at 168 and wouldn't fly to America like most big name fighters do. And yes, many Americans don't leave the States either, but you don't play at Madison Square Garden one night and then the next go to Johnny's Knights Country Club the next.