Who have you got at #2 p4p?

[Patty Tanager]

I can't think of one logical argument for Joe over JMM

How about:

Marquez has lost 4 fights, Calzaghe has lost 0?.

[egreezy]

How about:

Marquez has lost 4 fights, Calzaghe has lost 0?.

Logic tells me that means his wins aren't anywhere near as good. Pacman also has 3 losses.

[NAPO]

i'll take a 2 division undisputed undefeated champion with great names on his resume over..............


a guy who fame is recognized by fighting pacquiao losing to him and losing to chris john.with 4 or 5 losses and his career highlight is beating joel casamayor.


marzquez has skills no doubt but its ridiculous to have it number 2 because his history with pacquiao.

[Patty Tanager]

Logic tells me that means his wins aren't anywhere near as good. Pacman also has 3 losses.

How about:

Calzaghe has been the lineal champion in 2 weight divisions, Marquez has been the lineal champion in 0 divisions?.

How about:

Calzaghe has beaten a top 10 ranked pound for pound fighter?.

How about:

Calzaghe has been an unidsputed champion in a division?.

How about:

Calzaghe holding a World title for over 10 years with 21 title defences?.


I think there is at least "one logical arguement" there mate.

[daggum]

How about:

Calzaghe has been the lineal champion in 2 weight divisions, Marquez has been the lineal champion in 0 divisions?.

How about:

Calzaghe has beaten a top 10 ranked pound for pound fighter?.

How about:

Calzaghe has been an unidsputed champion in a division?.

How about:

Calzaghe holding a World title for over 10 years with 21 title defences?.


I think there is at least "one logical arguement" there mate.

sven ottke had 21 title defenses too and he did it with a real world title not the wbo. reality is a much nicer place to live in then your world with calzaghe posters on the wall.

[daggum]

How about:

Calzaghe has been the lineal champion in 2 weight divisions, Marquez has been the lineal champion in 0 divisions?.

How about:

Calzaghe has beaten a top 10 ranked pound for pound fighter?.

How about:

Calzaghe has been an unidsputed champion in a division?.

How about:

Calzaghe holding a World title for over 10 years with 21 title defences?.


I think there is at least "one logical arguement" there mate.

but zsolt erdei is the lineal champ at light heavy and does 168 even have any lineage its a poser division that was just started so people could hide away.

[daggum]

How about:

Calzaghe has been the lineal champion in 2 weight divisions, Marquez has been the lineal champion in 0 divisions?.

How about:

Calzaghe has beaten a top 10 ranked pound for pound fighter?.

How about:

Calzaghe has been an unidsputed champion in a division?.

How about:

Calzaghe holding a World title for over 10 years with 21 title defences?.


I think there is at least "one logical arguement" there mate.

are you talking about hopkins? i'd hardly say he beat him as most people think he lost that fight just like most people think marquez beat pac. unless manfredo was in the top 10 was he? brutallllllllllllll ko

[JaNnO]

not surprising coming from a pinoy....jmm jumped up to LW and fought the champion casamayor, he couldve taken an easy fight if he wanted to but he went straight to him, thats taking a big risk. manny on the other hand, went up to test the waters with david diaz, a fighter who to paraphrase jim lampley "was a fighter we all knew he could beat". now take their two fights, the first a draw who alot of people thought jmm won, and their second, a razor thin SD that alot of people thought jmm won. people make out manny to be invincible but the fact of the matter is, he's not. jmm has made the P4P #1 fighter in the world look foolish at times.

lol, look who's talking? how can you say pac didn't take a risk fighting the bigger diaz and odlh. fight after fight, pacman has been fighting the bigger fights out there. the way i look at it jmm is only a second fiddle to pacman. he follows and copies what pacquiao does. do you seriously think that jmm is man enough is man enough to test the water first before pacman. i seriously doubt that. the reaon why pacman is ATG is because he takes on all comers and beat them no matter how the odds are stacked against him.

jmm win over a washed up and old casa wouldn't have happened had pacquiao didn't show the way to jmm and nacho. they are nothing but 2nd rate, trying hard copy cats. (pinoys know where this line came from, lol)

jmm will never reached what pacman has accomplished.

[daggum]

How about:

Calzaghe has been the lineal champion in 2 weight divisions, Marquez has been the lineal champion in 0 divisions?.

How about:

Calzaghe has beaten a top 10 ranked pound for pound fighter?.

How about:

Calzaghe has been an unidsputed champion in a division?.

How about:

Calzaghe holding a World title for over 10 years with 21 title defences?.


I think there is at least "one logical arguement" there mate.

if he was undisputed how come he only had 3 out of the 4 belts? i'd call that disputed. nice try though . how about the ibf stripped him and rightfully so for fighting an unworthy challenger named manfredo. hopkins a real fighter had all 4 belts but calzaghe never did.

[Patty Tanager]

are you talking about hopkins? i'd hardly say he beat him as most people think he lost that fight just like most people think marquez beat pac. unless manfredo was in the top 10 was he? brutallllllllllllll ko

It still goes down in the history books as a win.