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  • flipbjefrox
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    #81
    Originally posted by loui_ludwig
    Haters said that no excuses if Pac gets KO by Oscar. But look whose making excuses now.
    what do u expect when all their fighters lose, start making excuses

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    • MaYaN_SuN
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      #82
      Originally posted by Makavelli
      its getting old dude....
      lol Paq's choice of fights? Of course. That we can agree on.

      And don't like you're completely ignoring the rest of your guys droppin like Kennedys and Mexicans are the lone gunmen lmao

      The difference between them and Paq isnt the fact they can't **** like Paq, its the fact they can't **** with fresh bodies. They come across guys who can get their hands off, and they can't take it. They're not fortunate enough to get a bag full of stiffs.

      And I'm not sayin last night wasn't huge, cause it was. I'm sayin the way it played out couldn't have been easier for Manny. If it was an all out war in which Manny came out ontop, now that would have been crazy. Watchin Paq eat flush hard shots, only to stop Oscar...lol that would be crazy indeed.

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      • them_apples
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        #83
        Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
        lol Calzaghe and Paq are just wipin these older guys out without mercy. Between Paq and Calzaghe, watchin their careers is like literally watchin a whole time frame of aged and dusted fighters in Boxing just getting cleaned out.

        But first of all, Oscar must have lost his damn mind comin into the fight that small. He couldn't even move his arms all night, he couldn't catch Paq with a glove the size of a ****in beach ball. That was literally worse, and 10x's more embarrassing then Castillo losing to Hatton. The **** was he tryin to prove by comin in that small? It made no sense at all strategically, whole time all I was thinkin about is why would he do that to his body? If he did that to his body as a way to make it appear that it WAS a fair fight, that means he started to worry about what people thought about him takin this fight. Which is just ******, **** all that insecurity ****. lol He shoulda focused on that 147 mark, and did his regular thing after makin the 147 mark, instead of killin himself.

        But you know who Oscar reminded of? Of a old ass Roger Mayweather, skinny legs and that weird ass upper body. I mean Oscar looked like a old and depleted Roger Mayweather. He looked pathetic to say the least.

        Now normally I'd be like "Now what does this say about Marquez? Marquez can put leather on Paq with pin point precision." But I mean Marquez got blitzed by Manny in 1 round and ultimately figured him out after that. I'd praise that fact right now, but thats Marquez. lol He knows how to fight. It's expected from him. I still think any fighter that can put good leather in Paq's face just ruins his whole fight game. But how many fighters has Manny fought that was able to do that for a sustained amount of time? lol Just Marquez and Erik. And Oscar was SUPPOSED to be on that list.

        I mean this wasn't even a fight, it was Oscar looking WORSE then David Diaz. I mean even though Diaz looked like he was swinging through wet cement when fightin Paq, he was STILL swingin. Oscar on the other hand, couldn't throw anything, couldn't bully Paq, couldn't get away from Paq, and couldn't even put up any sense of offense. Watchin that **** was like watchin a twighlight zone episode, that was weird as **** to say the least. Then he threw one right hand at one point in the fight...And his right hand came out like a dusty old fart against Paq who was just chillin on his toes the whole fight lol. Right then it hit me hard, he didn't have his arms in gear, he was just dead in the water. And the fact Paq CAN NOT fight guys who put leather in his face, and there's Oscar, who's great with his hands......WITH ABOSLUTELY NOTHING to throw back, that was way beyond shocking. Oscar didn't even make it a fight in the slightest. Then if thats not bad enough, lol Paq actually started to get to Oscar...lol Oscar....a ****in guy who's never even appeared to be hurt, lol and this ****in small ass guy hurts him and makes him quit!?

        ...Jesus

        lol Paq was born with a horse shoe up his ass or somthin, well not really. Thats just phenomenal match making for his time spent fighting in the states. With the exception of the Marquez fights and the first fight with Erik, lol everything works out perfect for this kid. lol And now he get's Hatton...either Hatton's glass chin shows up, or Hatton's gonna be thick enough to handle Paq's shots and bully him around all night.

        I just don't think we'll ever see Paq in a fight with someone who can match his speed and youth. lol I give up on that, it's just not gonna happen. The closest we'll see to it is a 3rd fight with Marquez.


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        As for Oscar, lol I actually thought he would beat Margarito at 147 right now, but I take that back. Marg's a work horse and if Oscar "likes fighters that engage with him," well....depending on how Oscar would have dealt with the weight preparation, I think there would have been a good chance that Marg would have put him through a meat grinder.


        Now if Oscar want's to save his career, he needs a rematch and needs to approach it realistically. **** all these special diets for "his blood type" and tryin to come in at 145 lmao. That was flat out suicide. But all that most likely won't happen. We don't even know if it would even matter if he tried to make 147 more carefully, he might end up just as depleted as in this fight. He could take another safe fight at 147 to see if it's possible to prepare properly. THEN go onto a rematch with Paq with a better routine for the weight, but thats really really really reaching. So if it's not a immediate rematch, he has to fight Forrest or Trinidad in a farewell fight. He has no choice, if he takes that fight and even makes it a close fight, I think he'll be able to show the world that the weight loss for the Paq fight turned his whole world inside out. If he gets TKOed again for a back 2 back, then you know he's done.

        Cause Oscar can not retire by way of TKO against Manny Pacqiaou lmao, if he does his career will be close to nothing. Cause that was just beyond horrible. I mean gettin stopped by a fighter like that in a circus event? not only did you embarrass yourself, but theres a major chance you literally lose any validity your career might have had. I mean talk about one of the ultimate back fires.

        How can you say that, didnt you say Oscar would ko Pac..?

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        • MaYaN_SuN
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          #84
          Originally posted by loui_ludwig
          Haters said that no excuses if Pac gets KO by Oscar. But look whose making excuses now.
          lol That would make sense if I said that. I thought Manny didn't have a chance, I thought Oscar was going to show up to fight. I thought Manny and Roach finally picked the wrong old Mexican to fight again.

          lmao But I guess they picked the right one. But thats the last one, no more hiding behind stiffs. Ironically, lol it's gonna be over for you guys.

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          • flipbjefrox
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            #85
            Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
            lol Paq's choice of fights? Of course. That we can agree on.

            And don't like you're completely ignoring the rest of your guys droppin like Kennedys and Mexicans are the lone gunmen lmao

            The difference between them and Paq isnt the fact they can't **** like Paq, its the fact they can't **** with fresh bodies. They come across guys who can get their hands off, and they can't take it. They're not fortunate enough to get a bag full of stiffs.

            And I'm not sayin last night wasn't huge, cause it was. I'm sayin the way it played out couldn't have been easier for Manny. If it was an all out war in which Manny came out ontop, now that would have been crazy. Watchin Paq eat flush hard shots, only to stop Oscar...lol that would be crazy indeed.
            how could be a war when manny just performed a defensive mastery. too bad margarito cant do the same. that's why he lost when he fought a big paul williams. that margarito is sure is 1 dimensional

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            • MaYaN_SuN
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              #86
              Originally posted by them_apples
              How can you say that, didnt you say Oscar would ko Pac..?
              lol Yeah, I was dead ****in wrong too. I definitely didn't even think Oscar was gonna come in like a corpse. I was blinkin my eyes to make sure I was seein **** right last night, I was drinkin so I didn't know if what I was watchin was real lmao.

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                #87
                Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                And I'm not sayin last night wasn't huge, cause it was. I'm sayin the way it played out couldn't have been easier for Manny. If it was an all out war in which Manny came out ontop, now that would have been crazy. Watchin Paq eat flush hard shots, only to stop Oscar...lol that would be crazy indeed.


                what in the bloody blue hell are you ****ing babbling about kid? its not PAC's fault that oscar's testicles got dislodged and his period came after the 1st round...it would have been nice to get a war...from a couple of flurries, i saw PAC stand in there and swing away



                and honestly, there are idiot pinoys out there, trust me, i dont get along with half of those ******s in pacland but its mostly the little scorn pocho ****ers that make this a race thing...and that's truth

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                • MaYaN_SuN
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by flipbjefrox
                  how could be a war when manny just performed a defensive mastery. too bad margarito cant do the same. that's why he lost when he fought a big paul williams. that margarito is sure is 1 dimensional
                  lol Whatttt? Oscar didn't even throw enough for Manny to have to use any defense. All Manny had to do is what he did, hop in and hop out. Oscar wasn't gonna touch Manny. Oscar could have had rockets strapped to those weak arms of his, and he still wouldn't have touched Manny. Oscar looked like a Zombie in there.

                  As for Marg, his defense is his chin lol. When you got a chin made out of a ****in dodge ram's bumper lmao, you tend not to care about another guys punches.

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                  • MaYaN_SuN
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Makavelli
                    what in the bloody blue hell are you ****ing babbling about kid?
                    Read slower..

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                    • -MAKAVELLI-
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                      Read slower..


                      if i read it slower, it makes you sound like an even bigger dumb****

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