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  • ferocity
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    #31
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    Nice post. I mean we were hearing all this crap about Oscar picking on a tiny guy. Oscar embarassing a built up featherweight...etc. And, lo and behold, Pacquiao beats that ass! Unbelievable bad turn of fortune for ODH.

    I don't even think ODH should fight again. Blame it on age and hope his legacy is strong enough to withstand all the letdowns. I doubt it can. It is unfortunate that here we had Oscar DeLaHoya...olympian...a young world beater...a class act in a sport of thugs...the non-heavyweight money in boxing...GET GREEDY. It was greed that ruined Oscar. He should have NEVER messed around with the much too big Bernard Hopkins (no hope of winning) and the much too small Mannie Pacquiao (nothing to gain and everything to lose). Take those two fights away and Oscar's legacy is in tact.

    Now even Mayweather's close decision win over Oscar is under severe scrutiny. Just how good was Oscar? Everything is suspect now. The business of boxing has just been exposed. Mannie Pacquiao ripped it to pieces last night.
    I hate when people call Delahoya greedy and let Pacquiao slide, he's just as greedy so if you call one man greedy you have to call the other greedy.

    How much did Ali loseing to Holmes hurt him?

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    • flipbjefrox
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      #32
      Originally posted by ferocity
      I hate when people call Delahoya greedy and let Pacquiao slide, he's just as greedy so if you call one man greedy you have to call the other greedy.

      How much did Ali loseing to Holmes hurt him?

      yup pacquiao is so greedy he didnt leave any mexican fighters behind

      barrera, morales, solis, marquez, diaz, and now oscar.. jeez save some for other fighters

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      • MaYaN_SuN
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        #33
        Oscar can retire like this, he could take his money and go off with his family. But it wouldn't be fitting.

        I think he should retire FIGHTING his way to a win, or go out FIGHTING his way into another loss. But he has to go out fighting. Going out getting stopped by Manny in the fashion he did lmao....that will suck the life out of alot of your career. He needs to show the world it was the weight that ****ed him over.

        I mean he "doesn't have to", but it would definitely be a better exit from the sport.

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        • wakwak
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          #34
          oh yeah pac sucks.. yeah he's one dimensional freak and ugh.. wait... oh yeah he is greedy like he doesn't have to pay anything or doesn't have to eat. yeah like all he ever fough were shot bum boxers everyone he fought were like shot so bad their heart doesn't even pump blood. and oh pac has been ducking every boxer that ever lived and your momma's as well. so uhmm yeah pac sucks

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          • ferocity
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            #35
            Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
            Oscar can retire like this, he could take his money and go off with his family. But it wouldn't be fitting.

            I think he should retire FIGHTING his way to a win, or go out FIGHTING his way into another loss. But he has to go out fighting. Going out getting stopped by Manny in the fashion he did lmao....that will suck the life out of alot of your career. He needs to show the world it was the weight that ****ed him over.

            I mean he "doesn't have to", but it would definitely be a better exit from the sport.
            Not once did Delahoya pass the torch to a fellow like Margarito even when he had a chance too, if he ever fight Margarito i hope he beats the living **** out of Delaoldya and bust him up real good, **** a ko keep him up to beat him for 12 rounds.

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            • BlackHat
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              #36
              Originally posted by ferocity
              Not once did Delahoya pass the torch to a fellow like Margarito even when he had a chance too, if he ever fight Margarito i hope he beats the living **** out of Delaoldya and bust him up real good, **** a ko keep him up to beat him for 12 rounds.
              dude you are so ****ing funny...

              LMAO!! sorry you failed big time

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              • flipbjefrox
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                #37
                Originally posted by ferocity
                Not once did Delahoya pass the torch to a fellow like Margarito even when he had a chance too, if he ever fight Margarito i hope he beats the living **** out of Delaoldya and bust him up real good, **** a ko keep him up to beat him for 12 rounds.
                pac would make margarito shot too... but since margarito is a top rank fighter, pac will spare him

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                • ferocity
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by flipbjefrox
                  pac would make margarito shot too... but since margarito is a top rank fighter, pac will spare him
                  Finally i can bring up this quote from Larry Merchant last night.

                  "..so do you think now Pac can go and fight a guy like Margarito? " - lamply

                  "no, but he can fight Hatton" - merchant

                  bbbwaaahahahahahhahahh!!!!!!!1

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                  • MaYaN_SuN
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by flipbjefrox
                    line them up who's next lol.. pac ran out of mexican fighters. he's now moving to england. mission accomplished. targets terminated
                    Yeah, Soto, Antillon, Juan Diaz....Paq didn't run out of Mexicans, he just ran from the ones who are as fresh as he is.

                    lol Be serious, theres a reason you only got one fighter. Think about it.

                    But yeah I'm done askin for a real Paq fight. I mean you see his people on his island, imagine how they would feel if Paq lost. I'd be thrilled if Oscar came out and shut Manny down, but the victory would be short lived cause then I'd start to feel kinda bad. Thats just real talk.

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                    • JaNnO
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                      #40
                      that was a long-winded bitchin' coming from a sore loser. i knew after pac's destroyed dlh, these pachaters were gonna say he beat an old and washed up fighter. lol, everybody pac beat becomes faded and washed up overnight. not to menton the fact that 8 of the 10 so-called boxing experts were saying that this fight was a farce, a circus and nothing but a money-making stunt for pac and dlh. boy were they so wrong. they must be eating crow now. these same people just don't realize the true grit and determination of a fighter who wants to give honor to his countrymen and motherland.

                      i don't understand why it is so hard for some nut cracks to accept pac's skills and accomplishments. they can ***** all they want but nobody can deny pac is ATG as of this moment and he earned it the hard way through sacrifices and hard work.

                      another jmm fan wanna ride on pac's finest moment. jmm had two shots but blew 'em out. pac would destroy jmm at 140. "line 'em up". next stop hatton then a mega fight with floyd.

                      Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                      lol Calzaghe and Paq are just wipin these older guys out without mercy. Between Paq and Calzaghe, watchin their careers is like literally watchin a whole time frame of aged and dusted fighters in Boxing just getting cleaned out.

                      But first of all, Oscar must have lost his damn mind comin into the fight that small. He couldn't even move his arms all night, he couldn't catch Paq with a glove the size of a ****in beach ball. That was literally worse, and 10x's more embarrassing then Castillo losing to Hatton. The **** was he tryin to prove by comin in that small? It made no sense at all strategically, whole time all I was thinkin about is why would he do that to his body? If he did that to his body as a way to make it appear that it WAS a fair fight, that means he started to worry about what people thought about him takin this fight. Which is just ******, **** all that insecurity ****. lol He shoulda focused on that 147 mark, and did his regular thing after makin the 147 mark, instead of killin himself.

                      But you know who Oscar reminded of? Of a old ass Roger Mayweather, skinny legs and that weird ass upper body. I mean Oscar looked like a old and depleted Roger Mayweather. He looked pathetic to say the least.

                      Now normally I'd be like "Now what does this say about Marquez? Marquez can put leather on Paq with pin point precision." But I mean Marquez got blitzed by Manny in 1 round and ultimately figured him out after that. I'd praise that fact right now, but thats Marquez. lol He knows how to fight. It's expected from him. I still think any fighter that can put good leather in Paq's face just ruins his whole fight game. But how many fighters has Manny fought that was able to do that for a sustained amount of time? lol Just Marquez and Erik. And Oscar was SUPPOSED to be on that list.

                      I mean this wasn't even a fight, it was Oscar looking WORSE then David Diaz. I mean even though Diaz looked like he was swinging through wet cement when fightin Paq, he was STILL swingin. Oscar on the other hand, couldn't throw anything, couldn't bully Paq, couldn't get away from Paq, and couldn't even put up any sense of offense. Watchin that **** was like watchin a twighlight zone episode, that was weird as **** to say the least. Then he threw one right hand at one point in the fight...And his right hand came out like a dusty old fart against Paq who was just chillin on his toes the whole fight lol. Right then it hit me hard, he didn't have his arms in gear, he was just dead in the water. And the fact Paq CAN NOT fight guys who put leather in his face, and there's Oscar, who's great with his hands......WITH ABOSLUTELY NOTHING to throw back, that was way beyond shocking. Oscar didn't even make it a fight in the slightest. Then if thats not bad enough, lol Paq actually started to get to Oscar...lol Oscar....a ****in guy who's never even appeared to be hurt, lol and this ****in small ass guy hurts him and makes him quit!?

                      ...Jesus

                      lol Paq was born with a horse shoe up his ass or somthin, well not really. Thats just phenomenal match making for his time spent fighting in the states. With the exception of the Marquez fights and the first fight with Erik, lol everything works out perfect for this kid. lol And now he get's Hatton...either Hatton's glass chin shows up, or Hatton's gonna be thick enough to handle Paq's shots and bully him around all night.

                      I just don't think we'll ever see Paq in a fight with someone who can match his speed and youth. lol I give up on that, it's just not gonna happen. The closest we'll see to it is a 3rd fight with Marquez.


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                      As for Oscar, lol I actually thought he would beat Margarito at 147 right now, but I take that back. Marg's a work horse and if Oscar "likes fighters that engage with him," well....depending on how Oscar would have dealt with the weight preparation, I think there would have been a good chance that Marg would have put him through a meat grinder.


                      Now if Oscar want's to save his career, he needs a rematch and needs to approach it realistically. **** all these special diets for "his blood type" and tryin to come in at 145 lmao. That was flat out suicide. But all that most likely won't happen. We don't even know if it would even matter if he tried to make 147 more carefully, he might end up just as depleted as in this fight. He could take another safe fight at 147 to see if it's possible to prepare properly. THEN go onto a rematch with Paq with a better routine for the weight, but thats really really really reaching. So if it's not a immediate rematch, he has to fight Forrest or Trinidad in a farewell fight. He has no choice, if he takes that fight and even makes it a close fight, I think he'll be able to show the world that the weight loss for the Paq fight turned his whole world inside out. If he gets TKOed again for a back 2 back, then you know he's done.

                      Cause Oscar can not retire by way of TKO against Manny Pacqiaou lmao, if he does his career will be close to nothing. Cause that was just beyond horrible. I mean gettin stopped by a fighter like that in a circus event? not only did you embarrass yourself, but theres a major chance you literally lose any validity your career might have had. I mean talk about one of the ultimate back fires.

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