Why did people think this was a mismatch?

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  • The Gully Gad
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Wire
    People didn't think Jones/Ruiz was gonna be a mismatch, or DLH/Hopkins. The weight disparagments were similar, and Manny is one hell of a fighter.

    Anyhoo, if they people that have yet to pay me could pay me that'd be crackin....
    Me 2...

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Wire
      People didn't think Jones/Ruiz was gonna be a mismatch, or DLH/Hopkins. The weight disparagments were similar, and Manny is one hell of a fighter.

      Anyhoo, if they people that have yet to pay me could pay me that'd be crackin....
      Pac was something like a 2 to 1 dog last night. DLH was a 6 to 1 dog against Hopkins. Which do you think people thought was more of a mismatch?

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      • Arka
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        #13
        Originally posted by Tengoshi
        We naturally figured DLH would cut to 147 then balloon up to 160 instead of trying to make a point and draining himself to death until his body shriveled up. The criticism of this fight as a mismatch actually led DLH to take (very unadvised) steps to see that it wasn't, in the process reversing the mismatch in Pacquiao's favor.
        Why didn't Oscar balloon upto 160?????
        Nobody has seemed to answer this question.

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        • Ranger2408
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          #14
          Originally posted by Arka
          Why didn't Oscar balloon upto 160?????
          Nobody has seemed to answer this question.
          Maybe he couldn't, or maybe he reasonably thought the loss of speed against manny would not be worth it.
          No good having the power if you are too slow to hit your opponent.

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          • Miburo
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            #15
            Originally posted by Arka
            Why didn't Oscar balloon upto 160?????
            Nobody has seemed to answer this question.
            Because given the new body he created he couldn't. He created a WW body for himself for this fight, one that he can no longer inhabit in any form of fighting shape. He drained himself down to below 147 and maintained that weight for a long while, shrinking his frame and muscular structure to fit the strenuous demands placed upon it to carry it. He even went to lengths to come in to the weigh-in underweight just to prove the point, attempting to pull a Hopkins.

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            • Miburo
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              #16
              Originally posted by Ranger2408
              Maybe he couldn't, or maybe he reasonably thought the loss of speed against manny would not be worth it.
              No good having the power if you are too slow to hit your opponent.
              I don't particularly buy the speed explanation since it should have become obvious in training that trying to maintain the lower weight was actually damaging his speed rather than bolstering it.

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              • Arka
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                #17
                Originally posted by Tengoshi
                Because given the new body he created he couldn't. He created a WW body for himself for this fight, one that he can no longer inhabit in any form of fighting shape. He drained himself down to below 147 and maintained that weight for a long while, shrinking his frame and muscular structure to fit the strenuous demands placed upon it to carry it. He even went to lengths to come in to the weigh-in underweight just to prove the point, attempting to pull a Hopkins.
                Good analysis.I learnt something new.Green rep for you.Very, very dumb move on part of Oscar.

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                • Arka
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                  #18
                  BTW what was your prediction of the fight Tengoshi?

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                  • Miburo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Arka
                    BTW what was your prediction of the fight Tengoshi?
                    Basically the reverse of what actually happened - DLH stoppage mid-to-late.

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