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  • The Jackal
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    #41
    Originally posted by JaNnO
    i think margarito gives pac fits. margo is just too big and strong for pac. pac has a better shot against cotto. pac beats hatton and pbf though.
    At 140 he'll be great he'll make a mess of Hatton & should take on the others at 140 & 135 but i believe he'll be fighting Mayweather after Hatton.

    He shouldn't be mixing it with natural welters Marg is a big welter his chin wasn't tested last night from a welter maybe that's good for him but if he fights at 147 again it'll be against Mayweather.

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    • Alibata
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Jackal
      Robinson is the greatest P4P ever & the best welter of ATG to mention Pacquiao with him is a bit over the top maybe people feel that way after last night but he beat a shot fighter last night as for the likes of Pep he would have to hunt him down Pep would counter slip but that's not to say Pacquiao wouldn't give him a good fight he would be 1 of the Great little men of ATG but there are too many greats to put in there before Pacquiao.
      Past prime yes.. Shot, no way!!!!! Everyone Pac fights seems to be shot now... hahahahaha!!!!! Mosley has fought more and is older than DLH....

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        #43
        Originally posted by xcaret
        beating old shot fighters makes you an atg? hahahahah!
        Ok DLH is shot... Everyone Pac beats is shot... Shot by the left straight bullet pac has... hahahaha!!!! Mexican genetics produce old men quicker...; Common Shane Mosely has been is smaller than DLH and has ****** with bigger men in a more "warrior" style and he isn't shot.. Past prime yes...

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        • The Jackal
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          #44
          Originally posted by Alibata
          Past prime yes.. Shot, no way!!!!! Everyone Pac fights seems to be shot now... hahahahaha!!!!! Mosley has fought more and is older than DLH....
          Well something went wrong with his weight Pacquiao weighed heaver on the night he might not have made the weight easy & didn't hydrate properly when Hatton loses to Pacquiao if DLH doesn't retire he should fight him.

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          • El Jesus
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            #45
            Originally posted by Alibata
            Ok DLH is shot... Everyone Pac beats is shot... Shot by the left straight bullet pac has... hahahaha!!!! Mexican genetics produce old men quicker...; Common Shane Mosely has been is smaller than DLH and has ****** with bigger men in a more "warrior" style and he isn't shot.. Past prime yes...
            DLH was shot though, it was obvious, i have never seen him like that, no one has, he just kind of stood there and took a beating. Roach himself said he was shot. Past his prime was how he looked against mayweather, against forbes he was looking pretty lackluster and it came full circle against pacman.

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            • KingTito
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              #46
              Pacquiao definitely deserves to be mentioned among the all time greats now. That was quite an accomplishment.

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              • The Jackal
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                #47
                Originally posted by El Jesus
                DLH was shot though, it was obvious, i have never seen him like that, no one has, he just kind of stood there and took a beating. Roach himself said he was shot. Past his prime was how he looked against mayweather, against forbes he was looking pretty lackluster and it came full circle against pacman.
                Good point but Mosley was very lucky last time out with Mayorga.

                Who needs a defining fight is Andre Berto he should fight Pacquiao if he wins he'll be huge bigger bargaining he can bring to table.

                Shot Hopkins has been shot a lot if Dlh wants to fight 1 more time should be Hatton would generate a lot of money.
                Last edited by The Jackal; 12-07-2008, 05:48 PM.

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                • NAPO
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by El Jesus
                  your comment was still wrong though, Pacman is an outstanding fighter, but seriously, top 3? Better than Duran? Even close to the level of ray robinson who in his prime went what, 128-0 against EVERYBODY not just selective matchmaking, EVERYONE. Thats why its laughable to compare even floyd jr to that level. Henry Armstrong DOMINATED every division he was in even though he started out small. And roberto duran, he was a monster at 135 and had a storied career even upsetting iran barkley. Thats not counting Joe Louis, Ali etc etc etc. I think its a little telling of you to call out someone for talking about praising blacks when 95 of your posts deal with puerto rican fighters almost exclusively, either that, or in the praise of puerto rican fighters, or the downing of those puerto rican rivals. There is nothing wrong with that, but to lay judgement on Skills, who really isnt that bad of a poster in comparison to alot of mayweathers biggest fans, is pretty low when you are guilty of the same.

                  Its not that black fighters are the only ones who deserve praise, but if you know these guys careers, armstrong and robinson, you understand why its so absurd to make those comparisons, i mean seriously, do you really know those guys careers at all'? Historically i mean.
                  i won't get into details but i will say this.

                  i talk about anything.of course i tend to go with puerto ricans fighters.but its more laughable saying pacquiao doesn't belong in the ATG LIST

                  fact is we weren't there. and i do know about those old fighters.thanks to my grandfather i know alot of old school boxing.


                  if u want to teste my boxing knowledge then try me i'll be glad to make an argument of why pacquiao should be at least top 1-10 ATG.

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                  • NAPO
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                    #49
                    double post.

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                    • El Jesus
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by NAPO
                      i won't get into details but i will say this.

                      i talk about anything.of course i tend to go with puerto ricans fighters.but its more laughable saying pacquiao doesn't belong in the ATG LIST

                      fact is we weren't there. and i do know about those old fighters.thanks to my grandfather i know alot of old school boxing.


                      if u want to teste my boxing knowledge then try me i'll be glad to make an argument of why pacquiao should be at least top 1-10 ATG.
                      If you want to really argue with me just properly respond to the post, pacman is an all time great, however YOU SAID, he was top 3. YOU said skills only praises presumably black fighters, when the fighters were talking about transcened race by all means.

                      If you know so damn much about boxing just examine my post and counter argue, im already testing your knowledge by mentioning what i mentioned.

                      Frankly i have never seen you discuss any historical boxing figures im talking about and id love to see what youd have to say about their styles and primes.

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