Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Wladimir Klitschko

[plug75]

This is a tough one to call, and obviously pure speculation. Anything could happen, but my feeling is Wlad by UD. Fact is Wlad cannot be outboxed. Period. The only chance to beat him is by KO, but with his recent "cautious" style there is so little chance of that now either. I preferred Wlad when he let his hands go, but he is now a machine. His defense is just awesome. Having said that Lennox can knock anyone out if he connects. I just dont see it against Wlad though.

[wolfgang]

Not hard to explain at all, Wlad gets flustered and looks clumsy most of the time he falls, but he took monster shots from Sanders and kept getting up. Wlad has been down 8 or 9 times and got up 8 or 9 times. Lewis has been down twice and got up 0.

Actually lewis easily got up after the mccall knock down, while lewis was still hurt, it was considered a bad stoppage.

[kenso]

and lewis is no peter, if peter dropt wlad 3 times imagine what lewis would do.

seriously, you people need to go back and rewatch some stuff.

1 knockdown was a classic peter rabbit punch knockdown
1 knockdown was peter basically forcing wlad to a knee(not via punch)
and the only LEGIT knock down was wlad getting tired at the end of a round, where peter hit him with a light punch.

no one wants to mention how wlad landed monster shot after monster shot and blocked so many of peters. where did peters chin go after this fight?!

as for lamon brewster GO BACK, watch the footage. how many CLEAN shots did lamon land? umm not very many, klitschko was gone far beyond lamon landed anything at all.

as for sanders wlad got his ass beat

as for purrity - this was before wlad was really even on anyones radar, who cares?

in response to lennox/vitali - if lennox had nothing left to prove, he should have never taken the fight in the first place. but instead of taking it and winning on cuts of all things, THEN claiming OH IF I WAS IN SHAPE I WOULD HAVE WON. ok he could have made a rematch about 4 months later, gotten in supreme shape, and did just that. im not saying lewis didnt have a fantastic ass career, he did. but lewis did not retire undisputed heavyweight champion, cause vitali put up one hell of a dispute. some of you also need to realize that cuts can be caused even by a simple light sc**** of a glove. and once a cut is opened it doesnt take much to make it get worse on someone like vitali. lewis got the win, but a cut is not a good enough conclusion, not when vitali was winning the fight. you can say "ohhh well lewis would have done this and done that if the fight kept going or they fought again" well there are ALOT of people that are STILL questioning the legitimacy of lewis's win over vitali. look all this prime for prime **** is just speculative, it cant happen. what COULD have happened was a vitali-lewis rematch. and lewis was the only one who didnt want it. dont you think if lewis was legimitately whipping vitalis ass, this wouldnt be an issue? but he wasnt, and while he wasnt in his prime at 37, he WAS the undisputed heavyweight champ, and vitali DESERVED a ****ing rematch. tell me, if lewis didnt fight vitali and instead had fought kirk johnson or someone, do you think that fight would have been his last?

final thoughts on wlad-lewis:
look you cant ride wlad for his entire career how he lost to sanders. the brewster fight was NOT a legit loss, something was wrong with him, if you think otherwise rewatch the fight and know that in a doctors report, his blood sugar level was 3-4x HIGHER than normal after the fight, so something was up. no one rides lewis for losing to rahman, why dont they? wlad avenged his strange loss to brewster in convincing fashion. if you are going to ride the brewster loss, then ride the rahman loss too. "oh rahman landed a right on lewis like it was nothing, put lewis OUT" ok does that mean wlad automatically beats lewis? NO, lewis became a smarter fighter because of that loss. same thing goes for wlad. all im saying is look at fighters for what they ARE not what they WERE. its not like its impossible for fighters to get better. look at glen johnson, he gave bad chad dawson all sorts of trouble, and he has like 9 losses on his record? do people ride johnson for those losses? NO cause he has became a good fighter. there is not enough evidence to provide a clear cut answer on who would win prime for prime lewis vs klit, only who you think will win, my personal pick was wladimir. but the point im trying to make here is when can some of you let the past be the past and the present be the present?

im out of this thread.

[beez721]

Lewis would knock hem out, he cannot tek Lewis power. He got knockout before.

well,,,lewis also had never faced anyone with the combination of size,,speed,,power and accuracy of wlad either and its not like his chin was granite either. the one who lands clean first wins the fight

[Motofan]

Lewis by mid round KO.

[beez721]

and lewis is no peter, if peter dropt wlad 3 times imagine what lewis would do.

poor analogy considering lewis was starched by mcall and rahman who havent nearly the accuracy and power of wlad and lewis isnt a rabbit puncher like peter. those 3 kd's were bs as even the announcers could see. lewis was also out boxed by ray mercer who hasnt the jab of wlad. lewis was tough to beat when he was on his game but he obviously also wasnt unbeatable and I could see either guy getting starched if they met. wlad would go in with a hell of a lot more respect than he did with purrity,,brew and sanders. he wouldnt throw eveything but the kitchen sink round after round

[beez721]

Lewis has been down twice in his career. Wlad about 8 or 9 times. But you think Wlad has the better chin? Please.

getting knocked down and out are 2 different things. kd's are usually caused by being off balance and most of wlads kd's were from getting off balance after missing a big shot or being gassed. thats not to say his chin is better than lewis's. I dont think either guys chins are bad bad as people make them out to be but theyre also not granite by any means

[joseph5620]

Not hard to explain at all, Wlad gets flustered and looks clumsy most of the time he falls, but he took monster shots from Sanders and kept getting up. Wlad has been down 8 or 9 times and got up 8 or 9 times. Lewis has been down twice and got up 0.

Wlad finished on his back against Sanders and had to be helped back to his corner against Purrity and and Brewster. You can make all of the excuses you want for why he got stopped but Wlad has never taken hard shots with going down or out. Lewis has taken hard shots from Bruno,Mercer,Holyfield and many others only to come back and win. When Wlad gets hit hard he panics and holds before a punch is even thrown sometimes, or gets stopped. He's never come back in a give and take battle.Your logic fails again.

[joseph5620]

Or for people that can't be bothered with keyboard warriors that use insults to compensate for their lack of knowledge.

My next question, when is/was Wlad's prime? Back when he used to let his fists go, but often ran out of energy if he didn't get the other guy out of there, or got caught with dumb stuff? Or now, when he is a much more cautious fighter, and often wins fights just with his jab?

I've ripped your ass apart on numerous occasions and made a fool out of you with your ridiculous boxing and political opinions. It was you who resorted to sending me E-mails and profile messages. You're just a cowardly punk who can't take what he dishes out and you've never had me on ignore,liar.