Why do Mexican fighters become shot fighters earlier than most?

[Alibata]

then why is it Pacquiao still in his prime and his already 30 now(days to go) and still his not old or shot... his been fighting since his still young he captured his championship belt when he was 19 yrs old... at the same age where eric is so called shot and also barrera...

It's the balut.

[nujabes77]

dlh was in his prime, right alibata? this was the same dlh that fought mosley, quartey, hopkins, mayweather, withaker, etc.. right alibata? I mean, i know you never seen any of these fights but your ****** ass is trying hard to give pacquiao full credit for beating a dehydrated dlh..

yet you were not saying he was shot before the fight? now shsss


pacquiao was just too good to the point where he made de la hoya look shot. being a southpaw + fast + skilled gave oscar the ordeal he couldn't answer. before the fight he was in good condition, he and his camp even said this so dont make his health as an excuse

do i think manny can beat 'prime' de la hoya at ww? yes, but it would be more competative. pacman is in another league, that's the reason why he is the best today

[nujabes77]

It's the balut.

you forgot the penoy

[THRILLA77]

not trying to start nothin. I have heard reasoning that it is because of the way they fight. In comparison with other fighters who fight "like mexicans" though, they still seem to be done earlier in their career.

Some examples

erik morales - age declared shot -29; record when declared shot
48-3-0=total fights 51
compare to:
Manny pacquiao - age -29 current "prime" won 47-3-2=total fights 52

oscar de la hoya - people saying if manny wins it is only because oscar is done at age 35; won 39 (ko 30) + lost 5 (ko 1) + drawn 0 = 44 rounds boxed 300
compare to :
Sugar shane mosley - age 37 won 45 (ko 38) + lost 5 (ko 0) + drawn 0 = 51
rounds boxed 343
joe calzaghe - age 36; won 46 (ko 32) + lost 0 (ko 0) + drawn 0 = 46
rounds boxed 263

there are other examples. Just curious, i dont hear anybody complaining about jerry penalosa, hopkins, trinidad etc the same way i hear about morales, barrera, de la hoya, chavez... Is it a mexican thing? Just curious.

cuz they are all pretty much brawlers.....

[Mojita]

you wanna make a bet you alibata **** stain? i got 10k on dlh, you seem so confident manny is gonna beat up dlh whos 10x the better fighter and has been in the ring with the best welterweights of his era.

lmao aw man

[nujabes77]

lolz, he did not see this one coming thad, must have been wearing the hugger glasses

[Caxcan]

then why is it Pacquiao still in his prime and his already 30 now(days to go) and still his not old or shot... his been fighting since his still young he captured his championship belt when he was 19 yrs old... at the same age where eric is so called shot and also barrera...

Barrera had more fights at pac's age and fought top level opposition throughout. the three wars between morales and barrera also took alot out of both. look at marquez, his career didnt really take off until later because he was stuck in those guys shadows. He's 35 now and still doing well.

[e-low]

they become shot because pac man beats them and people have to find excuses.

[nujabes77]

i like your first post, welcome

[miron_lang]

because
1. Mexican fighters tend to get into more wars, resulting in more punishment over time.
2. Morales won his first title at 21 years old I believe. so did Barrera. Im pretty sure that Calzaghe and Mosley won their titles in their midtwenties. and these guys(Morales and MAB) didnt just sit around, they defended their title up to 3 times a year. fighting lots of championship level opponents early in your career can wear you out down the stretch.
3. A lot of Mexicans start boxing professionally when theyre teenagers, because they need to make money and cant screw around with amateur fights. thats basically a head start in the punishment catagory.
4. Cutting weight has a lot to do with a fighters decline.
5. Mexicans spar a lot in training. I believe JCC used to spar 10-12 rounds a day in training when he was still very motivated for boxing. that kind of intense training really beats up fighters.

Pacquiao hasnt been in quite as many wars as MAB or Morales, but sooner or later were going to see him go downhill too.

24 Rounds with Marquez
23 Rounds with Barrera
25 Rounds with Morales
12 Rounds with Larios


Turned Pro at age 16. A linear Champion at age 19. Still primed after 53 fights.


Most fighters get fat in between fights. Its not PAC's fault that he threats his body like Hopkins.

Its not about race. Its about descipline.