Why do Mexican fighters become shot fighters earlier than most?

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  • Alibata
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    #1

    Why do Mexican fighters become shot fighters earlier than most?

    Not trying to start nothin. I have heard reasoning that it is because of the way they fight. In comparison with other fighters who fight "like Mexicans" though, they still seem to be done earlier in their career.

    Some examples

    Erik Morales - age declared shot -29; Record when declared shot
    48-3-0=Total fights 51
    Compare to:
    Manny Pacquiao - age -29 current "Prime" won 47-3-2=Total fights 52

    Oscar De La Hoya - People saying if Manny wins it is only because Oscar is done at age 35; won 39 (KO 30) + lost 5 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 44 rounds boxed 300
    Compare to :
    Sugar Shane Mosley - Age 37 won 45 (KO 38) + lost 5 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 51
    rounds boxed 343
    Joe Calzaghe - age 36; won 46 (KO 32) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 46
    rounds boxed 263

    There are other examples. Just curious, I dont hear anybody complaining about Jerry Penalosa, Hopkins, Trinidad etc the same way I hear about Morales, Barrera, De La Hoya, Chavez... Is it a Mexican thing? Just curious.
  • Flawless 2
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    #2
    The way they fight maybe

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    • ACHlLLES
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      #3
      they like getting punched in the head alot

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      • Alibata
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        #4
        Originally posted by Flawless 2
        The way they fight maybe
        I would say a fighter like Sugar Shane is just as aggressive or even more than DLH yet I don't hear anyone making excuses that if he loses its cuz hes shot.

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        • xcaret
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          #5
          hahaha, please dont tell me your trying to say that we shouldnt make any excuses IF manny wins which ISNT gonna happen...a 50 year Oscar would still KO manny ****quiao back to china


          after the de leon fight all you dumb ass pinoys were saying that a penalosa was old and a prime would of beat him, shut the *** up.... morales was battle worn, too many toe to toe fights can damage you


          why is it always the pinoys asking ****** questions?

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          • Jim Jeffries
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            #6
            I think on average they turn pro a lot younger and their aggressive style shortens their career. Oscar is a bad example though, he's fought less than once a year for the last 4 years. Inactivity kills worse than age.

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            • Alibata
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              #7
              Originally posted by xcaret
              hahaha, please dont tell me your trying to say that we shouldnt make any excuses IF manny wins which ISNT gonna happen...a 50 year Oscar would still KO manny ****quiao back to china


              after the de leon fight all you dumb ass pinoys were saying that a penalosa was old and a prime would of beat him, shut the *** up.... morales was battle worn, too many toe to toe fights can damage you


              why is it always the pinoys asking ****** questions?
              Never said that... Im glad you aint gonna make excuses.. You are the master of that. We will see. I am leaning toward DLH but do not count Manny out.;

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              • dino
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                #8
                for 1 alot of mexicans STARVE themselves fighting at weights they shouldn't even be fighting at, then when they fight somebody their size its TRUTH BE TOLD, like morales, castillo, vargas etc. I wouldn't say their shot earlier, its just when they can no longer starve themself and fight at their right weight class their not that good. The best mexican fighter of all time BY FAR is Oscar De La Hoya being that he moved thru weight classes and was effective.

                Castillo for instance fought at 135 for years when he's bulit like a natural welterweight

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                • QuCongee
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                  #9
                  They don't...

                  You can't simply pick examples that serve the point you're trying to make. I could make an identical thread about fighters of any race or nationality.

                  To make a claim that Mexican fighters become shot more/ealier than other fighters, you would have to look at hundreds, if not thousands of different careers. If you did, I think you'd find that a fighter becomes shot based on punishment he's taken in the ring and how well he's been able to absorb it. Race/nationality/ethnicity has nothing to do with it.

                  Also, the only example of a shot fighter you gave that I agree with, is Erik Morales. So one example of a shot Mexican fighter is not evidence that Mexican fighters become shot earlier or more often than other fighters.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #10
                    because mexicans like to brawl and they start their careers early... this is why they get shot earlier.

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