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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #91
    Originally posted by Two Clips
    You're right, he did lose a decision but then avenged that loss with a 1st round knockout and then tested the waters at 160 and 154. I'm sure his next fights will be big ones with better talent but I'm sure it won't be at 147. Call me crazy but I would like to see him fight Cintron to get him ready for fighting all the bigger guys at jr. middle & middle.
    And it took him 13 rounds to do it. Wouldn't you want to get your rematch if someone knocked you out?? Cause I'm pretty sure Quintana does. Fighting Kolle at 160 wasn't really a test, a test is a top 10 guy. Well I hope he comes back to 147, I don't have no problem with him making the weight and fighting. He just can't be pick and choosing like he's a superstar, he isn't a big draw. He has to work his way up and not just look for an escape with Margarito.

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      #92
      Originally posted by chicano79us
      And it took him 13 rounds to do it. Wouldn't you want to get your rematch if someone knocked you out?? Cause I'm pretty sure Quintana does. Fighting Kolle at 160 wasn't really a test, a test is a top 10 guy. Well I hope he comes back to 147, I don't have no problem with him making the weight and fighting. He just can't be pick and choosing like he's a superstar, he isn't a big draw. He has to work his way up and not just look for an escape with Margarito.
      Damn Chicano, you are a warrior.

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        #93
        Originally posted by chicano79us
        Kolle only loss came Ward, A FREAKING PROSPECT. So PW likes to fight people who fight prospects now???

        He's not having bad luck, he's doing it to himself. He is worried about the money, every boxer is, if that wasn't the case, he would of taken the Pavlik fight. Willing to fight him was clottey?? Don't forget, Margarito who fought him once already, Quintana, same. Even Collazo said he would fight him. This is why I don't believe his bull**** about no one wants to fight him. Its his damn fault, he wants to be the best but wants to put in the least amount of work. lol
        but margarito was fighting people who lost to prospects by KO ...(hint: santos against kofi jantuah) not to mention Santos has a win over Marg as well but lets not get into all of that because i can bring a lot of other things as well. Margarito had to fight him the first time otherwise he would have got stripped of his title, something he didnt want, dont make it as if margarito "optionally took the fight", williams was his no 1 mandatory.

        my question: lets forget all other things for now, can you tell me why margarito is fighting a 37 year old former lightweight in mosley for 2 million dollars, when he could have fought a prime williams for 4 million dollars and a WBO title (which was originally available until margarito backed out, so williams had to throw that title away in order to win a belt at 154 (where margarito lost and moved back to 147)

        the ring magazine has margarito as the number 1 welterweight and had williams as the number 2 before he moved up up to 154 , so the fight made sense, even it had more dollars.

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          #94
          Originally posted by chicano79us
          And it took him 13 rounds to do it. Wouldn't you want to get your rematch if someone knocked you out?? Cause I'm pretty sure Quintana does. Fighting Kolle at 160 wasn't really a test, a test is a top 10 guy. Well I hope he comes back to 147, I don't have no problem with him making the weight and fighting. He just can't be pick and choosing like he's a superstar, he isn't a big draw. He has to work his way up and not just look for an escape with Margarito.
          Well we can agree to disagree....the way I saw it is it took Quintana 12 rounds to win and it took PWill 1. As far as Kolle, you don't go up 2 weight classes and fight a top ten guy without testing the water first unless you're Pac and he's probably going to learn his lesson sat. He may not be a big draw now but if he can keep winning in 3 different weight classes he will be a star.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Derranged
            Damn Chicano, you are a warrior.

            LOL na man, I just think its unfair the bull**** Marg gets from here.

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              #96
              Originally posted by chicano79us
              LOL na man, I just think its unfair the bull**** Marg gets from here.
              I also think its unfair of all the bull**** Paul gets.. Both of them catch alotta ****, its getting old. Its the same **** when Floyd was fighting. I''ll join in the war every now and again, but for the most part I gave up. No sense in getting worked up over boxing discussion on the internet.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Two Clips
                Well we can agree to disagree....the way I saw it is it took Quintana 12 rounds to win and it took PWill 1. As far as Kolle, you don't go up 2 weight classes and fight a top ten guy without testing the water first unless you're Pac and he's probably going to learn his lesson sat. He may not be a big draw now but if he can keep winning in 3 different weight classes he will be a star.
                isnt it funny how they attack williams for fighting kolle who according to them only lost once to an undefeated fighter...yet they defend margarito for fighting lightweight journeymen in manuel gomez (10 losses) and golden johnson (7 losses)

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Two Clips
                  Well we can agree to disagree....the way I saw it is it took Quintana 12 rounds to win and it took PWill 1. As far as Kolle, you don't go up 2 weight classes and fight a top ten guy without testing the water first unless you're Pac and he's probably going to learn his lesson sat. He may not be a big draw now but if he can keep winning in 3 different weight classes he will be a star.

                  You do know that PW has fought @ 160 before in his career right?? Kolle wasn't the first time. He doesn't seem like a bad person at all, I do wish him success but he needs to be patient.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Xplosivo
                    isnt it funny how they attack williams for fighting kolle who according to them only lost once to an undefeated fighter...yet they defend margarito for fighting lightweight journeymen in manuel gomez (10 losses) and golden johnson (7 losses)
                    Yes sir I do find that funny.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by chicano79us
                      You do know that PW has fought @ 160 before in his career right?? Kolle wasn't the first time. He doesn't seem like a bad person at all, I do wish him success but he needs to be patient.
                      No I didn't know that, who did he fight at 160? It had to be one of his first fights because I don't miss many boxing matches.

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