I've noticed a recurring theme

[Hitman932]

now that david has moved up dont be surprised if he also shows a good chin. even if he doesn't have a goof chin i think everyone has to realize that the guy has guts and has a fighting heart, just look at the fragemoni fight or the mormeck fight.

guts and fightin heart + bad chin = trouble.

[S.G.]

Mormeck's KD on Haye was a bit dodgy too

it only really came about cos he lost his footing on some poorly placed advertisment boards

he's definitely above Khan status with the chin, although it's far from rock solid... he seems to fight off balance quite a lot too

[hookoutofhell]

guts and fightin heart + bad chin = trouble.

lol thats true, throw in the fact that david keeps his left hand low and doesn't have a water tight defence and suddenly every HW is going to fancy their chances against him.

but david does have good reflexes and he likes to entice his opponents make them feel that the punch is there and then counter them with his own punches.

a fighting heart can be a bad thing for a chinny fighter true but it can be a good thing as well, david doesn't always get into a tear-up and start thowing silly punches, in fact alot of his combo's generally are only 2/3 punches. he throws his right hand and then left hook or his jab then his right uppercut, hes not like khan or calzaghe who go in all guns blazing.

it think his guts and fighting heart should be applauded and not seen as a weakness until we see just how good his chin is.

[Davros?]

Enzo didn't hurt Haye it was just a stumble. Mormeck had him down but Haye came back, Fragomeni cut him and tested him like he had never been tested before, but he came back to win. Fragomeni never looked like he was going to knock Haye out though.

And Fragomeni is now WBC Cruiserweight champ.

[Gojira]

Fragomeni beat haye in the amateurs. it was a bit of a robbery if i remember.