Arreola vs Haye

[Mr. Ryan]

Now that will be a must see heavyweight fight. Haye would probably box Arreola's socks off. But Haye is on Arreolas level more than the Klichkos

I've actually never seen Haye outbox anyone. He's more of a flurry fighter than a boxer. That means he lunges in, tries to get as much as he can get done, then steps straight back and waits to do it again.

He doesn't actually use a jab so it's hard to call it boxing.

[Jim Jeffries]

Anyone that thinks Arreola's chin is weak needs to lay off the drugs. The guy has taken some seriously hard shots and only once in his career did he quickly take a knee. Walker landed some good shots, was rushing forward and Arreola was carrying too much weight to move back fast enough. Then Chris comes back in the same round to knock the guy down twice, at no time did he look seriously hurt, despite taking some clean hard shots in the fight.

[BrooklynBomber]

I've actually never seen Haye outbox anyone. He's more of a flurry fighter than a boxer. That means he lunges in, tries to get as much as he can get done, then steps straight back and waits to do it again.

He doesn't actually use a jab so it's hard to call it boxing.

YOu got to give him a bit of credit there though, he does not always steps back, more like to the back and left(a very basic movement, but still better then straight back)

I agree on the other points though.

[-Swizzy-]

David Haye - Strong fighter with good speed, huge power, decent technique, **** defence and **** chin.

Chris Arreola - Strong fighter with **** speed, **** power, **** technique and a **** chin.

Haye KO.

I don't think you've seen Arreola fight my friend. if he didn't have any power or a good chin, he would have 0 wins.

[Ryn0]

Kinda like the one he got caught with in his only loss at Cruiser?
Think about it.

In his what 9-10th fight I can't remember exactly, Wlad also lost very early

[Mr. Ryan]

YOu got to give him a bit of credit there though, he does not always steps back, more like to the back and left(a very basic movement, but still better then straight back)

I agree on the other points though.

Here's the thing, I want to give him more credit than that but it's still a tough call with Haye. I want to see him in with a real durable heavyweight before I make any judgment calls. True, Barrett is a decent fighter but when you aspire to more than that, I need to see something more.

I really bought into the prefight hype, that here was the entrance of the next challenger to the title, and I was left with more questions than answers.

He reminded me of Hamed in a lot of ways. He did so many things wrong but the power erased a lot of it. I don't like how he squares up when he throws with both hands, he leaves himself open too much.

But I really can't see him beating a guy like Chris Arreola. Arreola, if nothing else, comes to fight. He is extremely confident, resourceful and brings it from bell to bell.

[Davros?]

This fight would be good but i doubt it will happen until both of them have had title shots.

[Jim Jeffries]

In his what 9-10th fight I can't remember exactly, Wlad also lost very early

25th. A fight Wlad would've won had it not been a championship, and therefore a 12 round, fight. Before that he'd never been past 8 rds.

[BrooklynBomber]

Here's the thing, I want to give him more credit than that but it's still a tough call with Haye. I want to see him in with a real durable heavyweight before I make any judgment calls. True, Barrett is a decent fighter but when you aspire to more than that, I need to see something more.

I really bought into the prefight hype, that here was the entrance of the next challenger to the title, and I was left with more questions than answers.

He reminded me of Hamed in a lot of ways. He did so many things wrong but the power erased a lot of it. I don't like how he squares up when he throws with both hands, he leaves himself open too much.

But I really can't see him beating a guy like Chris Arreola. Arreola, if nothing else, comes to fight. He is extremely confident, resourceful and brings it from bell to bell.

I see your point, however, and frankly, I am quite biased in this one -- in Haye-Arreola match up I would give an advantage to David, however it is a very slight one and based much more on my gut feeling then my sense, which tells that Arreola is likely to win.

David Haye is far from a defensive wizard nor is he a very big fighter and Barrett was really taylor made for him because he is not a pure boxer, and he is not durable enough to be a good slugger. Which was very good for David and even then he was getting hit with these jabs at will.

[paul750]

Arreola just looks like a slow heavy-handed plodder. I just don't see how he can take what Haye will be throwing at him and at the same time hit Haye with those slow punches. They both have a lack of good fundamentals in common, but one guy is super quick and athletic, and the other is slow and overweight.

Like I've said before, I just see Arreola as in the same sort of bracket as a Sinan Samil Sam at best. I certainly don't think it would be wise to make Haye out as some sort of great heavyweight yet, but I'd heavily favour him against Arreola from what I've seen of both fighters.