Which is worse: Floyd "ducking" Margarito OR Margarito "ducking" Williams?!?

[JAB5239]

Margarito ducking Williams cuz
1. Margarito hadn't beaten any1 worth **** at the time
2. Floyd fought Baldomir for $8 million. The same Margarito apparently offered
3. Margarito aint a draw. Not yet at least

Margarito took less money to fight Mosley. Floyd took the same amount to fight a different opponent.

Who had Bldomir fought? Margarito already had his title for a few years and was an established force at 147, defending his title 6 times with 5 ko's by the time Floyd moved up. Bottom line is.....Floyd took the easiest avenue to a title at 147 and still never fought the divisions best. Now Margs may not be the fighter Floyd is, but he is fighting the toughest guys in his division on a pretty consistent basis. Floyd did anything but that at 147.

[JHAVIS]

both but floyd still suck more.

We all knew Floyd was about getting top dollar.He told Margarito once you become bigger, we will fight and to this day his name hasn't gotten any bigger.Mayweather got the same amount of money that was offered by Arum to fight the real champion in Baldomir, which set up a career payday with Oscar. Margarito asked for a rematch when he lost his title to Williams but guess he forgot he wasn't shot calling anymore once he lost his belt. Once Margarito regained his title,he refused the challenge of Williams because he knows he can't beat him even though he was offered a career payday. Sure as hell sounds like fear to me especially when he can't fight anyone that will bring him that type of money. If Mayweather is scared of Margarito, Margarito is sure as hell scared of Williams.

[KJB]

Who had Bldomir fought?

Baldomir was the LINEAR CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!
Come on people, this isnt that hard to figure out.

[Wiley Hyena]

I put quotes on both to make it objective. Vote and Discuss. Poll to Come

My own take:

I don't think Mayweather was too out of line. The man is rather small to contend with the top, full-size welters like Clottey, Margarito and Williams. He had other lucrative options, like actually winning a title from Baldomir, and money-making fights with Judah (who was a very interesting matchup at the time and proved to be a difficult fight for Floyd in the beginning), De La Hoya and Hatton (both of the latter made Floyd far more than 8 million).

On the other hand, Tony already lost to Williams and has incentive to redeem himself. He claims to be the most feared man in boxing, when Williams clearly is. He turned down the Paul Williams fight to fight a man with no title. Fighting Mosley is equivalent to Mayweather fighting Judah in that both men lost their last title fight and have no titles, yet remain big names. Even still, Margarito is taking a 2 million dollar paycut to face Mosley and those numbers are more significant then they were before because of how tight the cable networks are now as of the recession.

Not trying to hate here. I rooted for Margarito against Cotto and was a huge fan, but I have to admit that I have been turned off by his utter avoidance of Paul Williams.... Your thoughts?!

At least he fought him.

[JAB5239]

Baldomir was the LINEAR CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!
Come on people, this isnt that hard to figure out.

So what. He was still the weakest titlist out there. THAT isn't that hard to figure out. I mean seriously, how many successful defenses did he have? What was his comp like up to that point? You see where Im going? Floyd was a great fighter. There is no denying that. But he spent his time at 147 fighting has beens, front runners and never were's.

[KJB]

So what. He was still the weakest titlist out there. THAT isn't that hard to figure out. I mean seriously, how many successful defenses did he have? What was his comp like up to that point? You see where Im going? Floyd was a great fighter. There is no denying that. But he spent his time at 147 fighting has beens, front runners and never were's.

Thats easy to say right now, but at the time Judah and Baldomir were clearly the best fights at WW. If he had chosen another WW past that point Margarito would have been a good choice, but the DLH fight came along.

[Flawless 2]

So what. He was still the weakest titlist out there. THAT isn't that hard to figure out. I mean seriously, how many successful defenses did he have? What was his comp like up to that point? You see where Im going? Floyd was a great fighter. There is no denying that. But he spent his time at 147 fighting has beens, front runners and never were's.

Baldomir best win was against Judah was the the man at WW, Mayweather fought him for 8 million WBC TITLE and ring title instead of Margarito's WBO title and also Mayweather had money unpaid to him by Arum for the Judah match

[JHAVIS]

So what. He was still the weakest titlist out there. THAT isn't that hard to figure out. I mean seriously, how many successful defenses did he have? What was his comp like up to that point? You see where Im going? Floyd was a great fighter. There is no denying that. But he spent his time at 147 fighting has beens, front runners and never were's.

Let's not forget this is a business also and no one can represent" YOU" better than yourself and Mayweather does this well. I think Margarito is trying to the same thing but is going about it the wrong way.

[JAB5239]

Thats easy to say right now, but at the time Judah and Baldomir were clearly the best fights at WW. If he had chosen another WW past that point Margarito would have been a good choice, but the DLH fight came along.

With all due respect my friend, how do you figure? Judah WAS looking good at the time, but he still hadn't proved he could be consistent and live up to his potential. This is easily reinforced by him blowing the Baldomir fight which was a fight, if in the right frame of mind he would win almost 100% of the time. And Baldomir, for all his grit and toughness was one of the most least skilled champions I've seen in many, many years.

[JHAVIS]

With all due respect my friend, how do you figure? Judah WAS looking good at the time, but he still hadn't proved he could be consistent and live up to his potential. This is easily reinforced by him blowing the Baldomir fight which was a fight, if in the right frame of mind he would win almost 100% of the time. And Baldomir, for all his grit and toughness was one of the most least skilled champions I've seen in many, many years.

Damn, what you're saying about Judah is true. If Margarito and Baldomir had fought, who would you pick? Both are limited boxers with hard heads.