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  • Fox McCloud
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    #1

    You know who is underrated?

    Does anyone know who Jon Schorle is?

    Didn't think so...

    He's refereed quite a few big fights, and you never notice him, because he is never a factor. He always gets the job done and doesn't take focus off the fighters.

    Definitely top notch.
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    I always thought Shorle wasn't that good a referee. Pat Russell is much better IMO.

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    • Flawless 2
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      #3
      Paul Williams....

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        #4
        Originally posted by Silencers
        I always thought Shorle wasn't that good a referee. Pat Russell is much better IMO.
        What fight did he screw up in?

        I remember he did a Mayweather fight, and wasn't a factor at all.

        I'm watching Erik Morales get his ass kicked by Zahir Raheem right now. He's doing a good job in that too.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Flawless 2
          Paul Williams....
          Uhhhh... thanks.

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          • Zhaakal
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            #6
            Was he the man refereeing Walker - Arreola? I liked that guy ( No **** ).

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              Micahel Jennings.

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              • Silencers
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                #8
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                What fight did he screw up in?

                I remember he did a Mayweather fight, and wasn't a factor at all.

                I'm watching Erik Morales get his ass kicked by Zahir Raheem right now. He's doing a good job in that too.
                I don't think it was a single fight but he just makes little mistakes here and there that get to me, just mistakes that shouldn't be made.

                Morales looked horrible in that one.

                Steve Kim sums it up pretty well.

                I can see why Israel Vazquez and his team fought so hard to have referee Jon Schorle removed in place of Pat Russell for their fight against Marquez earlier this month.

                Schorle, in my opinion, was terrible as the third man in the ring with Casamayor and Katsidis. He let Casamayor get away with numerous head butts and other transgressions, and he seems to have very little grasp of what was going on in there. Even the stoppage seemed a bit questionable. Was Katsidis any worse off than when he was taking the count at the time the fight was halted?

                Schorle, if you recall, was the referee when Victor Burgos almost lost his life at the hands of Vic Darchinyan. He just doesn't seem to have a good feel for what's going on in the ring. The more I see of his work, the less impressed I come away.

                There are plenty of quality referees in California such as Pat Russell, Jack Reiss, Raul Caiz Sr. and Jr, Dr. James Jen Kin, among others, but the head of the California State Athletic Commission, Armando Garcia, seems determined to make sure Schorle gets plum assignments at the cost of his best officials working the biggest and most important events in the state.

                Another case of politics over boxing, I guess.
                Last edited by Silencers; 12-01-2008, 09:47 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Silencers
                  I don't think it was a single fight but he just makes little mistakes here and there that get to me, just mistakes that shouldn't be made.

                  Morales looked horrible in that one.

                  Steve Kim sums it up pretty well.
                  Yeah, my heart is getting broken watching this Morales fight...

                  Anyway, I didn't realize Schorle was the guy who let Victor Burgos get beaten nearly to death.

                  I will say, I don't think Schorle did any worse allowing Casamayor to be a cheater than any other referee. Casamayor was good at what he did, and most referees didn't warn him about it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    Yeah, my heart is getting broken watching this Morales fight...

                    Anyway, I didn't realize Schorle was the guy who let Victor Burgos get beaten nearly to death.

                    I will say, I don't think Schorle did any worse allowing Casamayor to be a cheater than any other referee. Casamayor was good at what he did, and most referees didn't warn him about it.
                    Morales got beat pretty bad.

                    Maybe so, I still don't really like him as a referee though, Pat Russell does better jobs to me.

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