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  • Chunk..
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    #41
    Originally posted by The_Executioner
    Is that Roy and Bernard's fault? No. Calzaghe aint beat the level of opposition that Roy and B-Hop have. Therefore I wont put him on their level.
    Thanks for reasoning.

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    • Wiley Hyena
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      #42
      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
      He's by far the best fighter of this generation, ahead of Pacquiao, Lewis, Hopkins, Jones, De La Hoya, Whitaker, Mosley, Toney, Trinidad and Morales, so I put him in the top 10 all time or else right outside it. He's never come close to losing a fight and has won titles in 5 different weight classes. The only fight he was in danger of losing he fought with one good arm for 11 rounds and still pulled it out. I don't think you can rank anybody from the last 20 years ahead of him.
      That's just a blatant and rather profound example of self absorbed nuthuggery.

      Floyd LOST the first fight against Jose Luis Castillo. Period. And that was at 135.
      His resume is full of holes that should contain the names of other dominant fighters of his era, Tszyu, Margarito, and Cotto, to name three. His resume at 140 is hardly glorious. Hatton had to fatten up to 147 in order to get his fight with Floyd. Floyd's resume at 147 is even worse. Floyd has done nothing to prove his own claim that he's the best JrWW and WW of all time. He's not even the best of his era in those divisions.

      I'll give him top 50 for his work at 130-135, but THAT'S IT.

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      • Horus
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        #43
        When People Ranked Fighters They Must Rank Fighters not by Hypothetical match ups.But How they are Rated in their Generation and era..!!!

        Floyd can not control what went on in Jackie Johnson era, Joe Lewis era, Sugar Robinson Era,Ali Era, SRL Era, or the Whitiker, Chavez era ,

        But he can control His Era..!! 00's

        Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest of His era.
        And he was name that by his peers, not just by me.
        Bernard Hopkins
        De La Hoya
        Shane Mosley
        Ricky Hatton
        Kostya Tszyu
        Manny Pacquiao
        Lennox Lewis
        Zab Judah
        Roy Jones Jr.
        etc.

        Floyd stands Alone in His Era. He is a Living Legend. Period.
        the 00's Era is Mayweather's...

        People would not judge fighters just by their fighting...
        People judge fighters by their era...
        And it is no doubt that this era is Mayweather


        Thats all he can control....
        Everything else is speculation..!!
        These are facts.

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        • Horus
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          #44
          Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
          That's just a blatant and rather profound example of self absorbed nuthuggery.

          Floyd LOST the first fight against Jose Luis Castillo. Period. And that was at 135.
          His resume is full of holes that should contain the names of other dominant fighters of his era, Tszyu, Margarito, and Cotto, to name three. His resume at 140 is hardly glorious. Hatton had to fatten up to 147 in order to get his fight with Floyd. Floyd's resume at 147 is even worse. Floyd has done nothing to prove his own claim that he's the best JrWW and WW of all time. He's not even the best of his era in those divisions.

          I'll give him top 50 for his work at 130-135, but THAT'S IT.
          I already proved you are a blind Hater with no commonsense at all ....So you have already been discredited...

          Or Do I need to POST THE POST again..!!!

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          • Wiley Hyena
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            #45
            Originally posted by Horus
            When People Ranked Fighters They Must Rank Fighters not by Hypothetical match ups.But How they are Rated in their Generation and era..!!!

            Floyd can not control what went on in Jackie Johnson era, Joe Lewis era, Sugar Robinson Era,Ali Era, SRL Era, or the Whitiker, Chavez era ,

            But he can control His Era..!! 00's

            Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest of His era.
            And he was name that by his peers, not just by me.
            Bernard Hopkins
            De La Hoya
            Shane Mosley
            Ricky Hatton
            Kostya Tszyu
            Manny Pacquiao
            Lennox Lewis
            Zab Judah
            Roy Jones Jr.
            etc.

            Floyd stands Alone in His Era. He is a Living Legend. Period.
            the 00's Era is Mayweather's...

            People would not judge fighters just by their fighting...
            People judge fighters by their era...
            And it is no doubt that this era is Mayweather


            Thats all he can control....
            Everything else is speculation..!!
            These are facts.
            Those aren't facts. That's your nuthugging opinion.
            Want to talk about dominant fighters in this era? Try these:

            --Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Kostya Tszyu, Mannie Pacquiao--

            You want to know what each of these fighters has in common? They ruled their divisions with an iron fist for a number of years. Not even Oscar DeLaHoya or Shane Mosely can make this claim. Can Mayweather?

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            • Horus
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              #46
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              Those aren't facts. That's your nuthugging opinion.
              Want to talk about dominant fighters in this era? Try these:

              --Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Kostya Tszyu, Mannie Pacquiao--

              You want to know what each of these fighters has in common? They ruled their divisions with an iron fist for a number of years. Not even Oscar DeLaHoya or Shane Mosely can make this claim. Can Mayweather?
              Mayweather clean out 130. Learn your History.


              --Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Kostya Tszyu, Mannie Pacquiao all called Mayweather the best of his generation. Manny Pacquaio never puts himself over Mayweather when ask about Mayweather Pacquaio replied>
              "He is the best" ... Not He is not the better then me...
              Pacquaio evens wants to fight Mayweather, to see how he would compared to the greatest fighter of his generation..!!!


              Here is a History Lesson:

              Mayweather at 130.


              130: 1ST WEIGHT CLASS

              The Top Four Recognized Fighters Were:

              Genaro Hernandez
              Angel Manfredy
              Roberto Garcia
              Diego Corrales


              At Mayweather First Division at 130,He Dominated the Division.
              He was Knocking out all top Contenders.
              • To the Point that after only 2 years turning PRO He was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Division


              http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998

              He Fought Genaro Hernandez who was 38-1-1 2 time World Champion. And The Reigning WBC world Champion. And The Ring Magazine Recognize World Champion of The Division.Who only Lost came from Oscar De La Hoya in which Oscar broke his in several places. .Which Happen 3 years Earlier

              In that Fight Floyd Dominated the Recognize Champion at 130. and Officially Became
              • The WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.
              ...
              not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but The Official Recognize WBC world Champion at 21 years old. And Now Recognize as The Ring Magazine number # 1 fighter in the division at 21 years old
              and #8 on P4P list out of all the fighters in the world.

              His Next Fight right After that Fight,Mayweather beat the guy who was RANKED number #4 ( Angel Manfredy) , And In that fight Mayweather Knocks Him Out in the 2nd.Round.

              Now Mayweather had now beaten 2 out of the top 4 fighters in the 130 division. all before the age Of 22.And the 3rd of those 4 fighters was
              • (Roberto Garcia who was 31-0 with 23 Knock Outs.)

              And Floyd was about to fight Roberto Garcia, but Roberto Garcia decided to fight Knock Out Artist and Another P4P Phenomenal fighter in Diego Corrales.. Who out of 33 fights to that Point. only 5 fighters didnt get Knock Out.

              Roberto Garcia was knock out in the 7th Round by Corrales. Now Instead of Floyd Fighting Roberto Garica, he nows finds himself in the position
              of fighting the #5 Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport, and then #1 fighter at 130...Diego Corrales.

              and In that Fight Floyd was a 2 to 1 Underdog, to not only lose to Corrales.But to get Knock out.

              Floyd fights Corrales, The #5 P4P fighter in the sport and #1 fighter in the division, and in the fight compellingly outclassed
              and Knocks out Diego Corrales in a 10 round 1 sided fight.

              After that Floyd Completely Clean out the 130 Division with 8 title defenses, with 6 of those fights ending in Knock out.
              • Floyd at 130 now can not get a big name fighter to fight him from Featherweight to Lightweight.


              NOBODY..and when big name fighters did get approach about fighting Mayweather, they either demand a 55-45 split, or didnt return the call. So Floyd started calling out all the big names Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, everybody.
              But Nobody wanted to fight. So instead of staying at 130 where no other big names will fight him at. He moves Up.

              And his first fight was against the number # 1 guy at 145 JLC.








              KNOW YOUR HISTORY, BEFORE YOU SPEAK ON THE PRESENT!!!!
              Last edited by Horus; 11-30-2008, 07:02 PM.

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              • Horus
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                #47
                Originally posted by Horus
                When People Ranked Fighters They Must Rank Fighters not by Hypothetical match ups.But How they are Rated in their Generation and era..!!!

                Floyd can not control what went on in Jackie Johnson era, Joe Lewis era, Sugar Robinson Era,Ali Era, SRL Era, or the Whitiker, Chavez era ,

                But he can control His Era..!! 00's

                Floyd Mayweather is the Greatest of His era.
                And he was name that by his peers, not just by me.
                Bernard Hopkins
                De La Hoya
                Shane Mosley
                Ricky Hatton
                Kostya Tszyu
                Manny Pacquiao
                Lennox Lewis
                Zab Judah
                Roy Jones Jr.
                etc.

                Floyd stands Alone in His Era. He is a Living Legend. Period.
                the 00's Era is Mayweather's...

                People would not judge fighters just by their fighting...
                People judge fighters by their era...
                And it is no doubt that this era is Mayweather


                Thats all he can control....
                Everything else is speculation..!!
                These are facts.
                Thread Closed

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                • Naz Fan
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                  #48
                  Top 50 somewhere


                  but in terms of talent he's in the top 10 for sure. he just hasnt proved it against enough opponents. i just hope he comes out of retirement to take a couple names...

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                  • MANGLER
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                    #49
                    Hard to say. he's got mad skills, but walkin during his prime while his division was stacked costs him a ****load of cred.

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                    • leppard365
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Testdead
                      Top 5?

                      Get the **** outta here.
                      Yeah top 5, you blind haters just can't see it, hopefully the next generations who come in the future will realise actually what a world class boxer he is and respect him the way he needs to be respected cause at the moment he's hated by jealous fans.

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