Better Resume out of these 6

[flat1985]

B-Hop > Pacman > RJJ > Mayweather > Toney > Calzaghe

[Poet682006]

thats as maybe but to rip someone head off because they proclaim a guy to be ATG when just about every criteria for being an ATG has been ticked by the guy is pretty ignorant.

I've watched plenty of boxing thank you very much, and just because your old (In fact at 40 your all of 7 years older than so in reality you've not seen much more than I have) doesn't make you the ultimate authority on anything.

Your opinion I will respect so long as you show respect to others, which you haven't.

Considering I've been watching boxing since around oh 1972 or 1973 I would say my "boxing watching life" (you're term) is considerably greater plus if you go over to the Video Trading Block and peruse my catalog of fights you'll get an idea of just how many fights I've actually watched (not that I've seen EVERY fight I have in my collection but I HAVE watched most of them and certainly all of the important ones).

As for respecting opinions I'm ill inclined to respect an opinion with nothing more to back it up then "I've watched a few of his fights and.....". I watched Roy Jones slice and dice Felix Trinidad and it meant NOTHING: Jones STILL got dominated by Calzaghe. How good a performance is only has meaning based on who it was against: It's easy for a fighter to look good against a tomato can or a washed up former great who's just looking for a paycheck. In the case of Mayweather he looked like ****e against a washed up De La Hoya: Looking great against a never was like Manfredy is hardly to his credit. About the only fight where you could say Mayweather put in a truly great performance was against Hatton and I have some serious questions about how good Hatton really is. My inclination is that Hatton is another Arturo Gatti: An entertaining fighter is just isn't good enough to beat the beat genuine world-class fighters.

Poet

[Poet682006]

I'm drunk and belligerent

You said it not me.

yes, right now I have the state of mind of an MMA fan

My condolences. Please let me know when you grow up and start watching an adult sport.

Poet

[hammerhiem]

I watched Roy Jones slice and dice Felix Trinidad and it meant NOTHING: Jones STILL got dominated by Calzaghe

I think you'll find that is the exact opposite of what my view on that topic is. I've said in every thread I think Jones's record > Calzaghe's because of fights like Toney rather than a Trinidad that hadn't fought in three years.

Also I was more impressed by Mayweather against Corrales, Castillio X2 than I was over his beating of Hatton.

[Poet682006]

I think you'll find that is the exact opposite of what my view on that topic is. I've said in every thread I think Jones's record > Calzaghe's because of fights like Toney rather than a Trinidad that hadn't fought in three years.

Okay, fair enough. If I've misread your view on that I appologize. I agree with your view of fights like Toney making Jones. My point was that simply watching a given fight or fights is misleading: People were certainly mislead in thinking that Jones' performance against Trinidad was a harbinger of how he would do against Calzaghe. I was skeptical because of who the performance was against.

Also I was more impressed by Mayweather against Corrales, Castillio X2 than I was over his beating of Hatton.

I think it's to his credit that he won the second Castillo fight (because Castillo is a high quality opponent) but that being said I didn't think it was an impressive performance by any means. I certainly don't think he won the first Castillo fight. As for Corrales I never thought he was all that and a bag of chips: He gets a lot of "rose-colored glasses" treatment because he died young. Also, he was an entertaining fighter and entertaining fighters ALWAYS get overrated beyond what their actual abilities are (see Mike Tyson and Arturo Gatti). Typically fighters who generate a lot of offense fall into that catagory (ie. Felix Trinidad) and then people are shocked, SHOCKED when they lose.

Poet

[El Dominicano]

I'm still gonna stick to B-Hop> RJJ > Toney> Mayweather> Pacman > Calzaghe