PAC has the most difficult task ahead compared to RJJ and Roberto Duran

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  • We want Floyd
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    PAC has the most difficult task ahead compared to RJJ and Roberto Duran

    When moving waaay up in weight and fighting the bigger fighter. I think PAC has alot more to deal with compared to Duran when he faced Barkley and when Roy Jones Jr. fought John Ruiz.

    De La Hoya is much more skilled than Iran Barkley and I don't think the other even deserves to be mentioned. Also, DLH is already considered by many as an All-time great, and Ruiz and Barkley, well I'm not even sure if they'd make it into the HOF.

    Ruiz and Barkley during their time, were not even considered the best at their weightclass, P4P nowhere near as talented as De La Hoya.

    Joto today is considered the best junior middleweight
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    What makes it really challenging for PAC is the fact that Joto has a jab. Duran and Roy Jones Jr. didn't have to worry about Barkley's or Ruiz's jabs because they really didn't have any. It just makes it so much easier for the lil guy to move in when facing the bigger fighter without having to worry about a jab.

    PAC is the f**kin' man. Or should I say just plain insane.
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    De La Joto ranks above Iran Barkley and John Ruiz
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    Iran Barkley ranks above De La Joto and John Ruiz
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    Last edited by We want Floyd; 11-26-2008, 05:20 AM.
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    #2
    Paul Williams is better at Jr Mw and also Forrest

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      #3
      Originally posted by Flawless 2
      Paul Williams is better at Jr Mw and also Forrest
      Even at this stage of Joto's career. I'd favor Joto against the two you mentioned. Although, I think P. Will and Vernon have a good shot.

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        #4
        Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
        Even at this stage of Joto's career. I'd favor Joto against the two you mentioned. Although, I think P. Will and Vernon have a good shot.
        Forbes busted Oscar face, Williams would hurt Oscar pretty bad. Mayweather was about to knock down Oscar in the 5th I think until he held to Mayweather. Oscar is pretty past his prime and not a threat at 154 anymore

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          #5
          Originally posted by Flawless 2
          Forbes busted Oscar face, Williams would hurt Oscar pretty bad. Mayweather was about to knock down Oscar in the 5th I think until he held to Mayweather. Oscar is pretty past his prime and not a threat at 154 anymore
          Man, people make too much of the whole fractured cheekbone Joto suffered against Forbes. Joto is past it, but he doesn't have to worry about a heavy handed, same sized welterweight in PAC. I mean, he really has alot of advantages over PAC. Whereas Barkley's and Ruiz's advantage were simply their size alone.

          Ruiz and Barkley couldn't dance around the ring if they had to, both fighters were mechanical. Joto can box and still has a killer left hook that is considered to be one of the best. Can you tell me if Ruiz and Barkley P4P packed the same punching power? No.

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            #6
            Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
            Man, people make too much of the whole fractured cheekbone Joto suffered against Forbes. Joto is past it, but he doesn't have to worry about a heavy handed, same sized welterweight in PAC. I mean, he really has alot of advantages over PAC. Whereas Barkley's and Ruiz's advantage were simply their size alone.

            Ruiz and Barkley couldn't dance around the ring if they had to, both fighters were mechanical. Joto can box and still has a killer left hook that is considered to be one of the best. Can you tell me if Ruiz and Barkley P4P packed the same punching power? No.
            Ruiz is a HW, Roy Jones was like 193 and Ruiz was 226. That is bloody 33 pounds difference. Manny at fight night would be around 145 and Oscar like 160. Roy had to add 18 pounds. Manny has to add 12 pounds. I understated Oscar hits P4P harder but One clean shot could have KO'd Jones.

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              #7
              I think Duran had the hardest task as he was considered a shot fighter at the time

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                #8
                DLH is pound for pound better than Ruiz and Barkley but Duran's size difference to Barkley probably made his task the hardest.

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                  #9
                  Roy gave away 30 pounds to Ruiz...

                  on fight night Pac will probably only give away ma 10-15 pounds to De la Hoya

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hishaam15
                    Roy gave away 30 pounds to Ruiz...

                    on fight night Pac will probably only give away ma 10-15 pounds to De la Hoya
                    Ruiz's size wasn't even a factor in the fight, RJJ was able to neutralize the plodding Ruiz, and add to the fact that the ref definitely only had one thing in mind, protect RJJ!

                    PAC on the other hand, has to deal with someone who is bigger and literally levels above him in the skill department. I mean, DLH, I rag on him alot, but the f**ker has all the skill in the world, that's why you hardly see his chin checked, 'cause his defense is pretty d*mn good.

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