Why no credit for Floyd Sr

[Sin City]

I give Nacho Bernstein props for Juan Ma and Rafa.. how could I not?
Dundee gets credit for teaching Ali...
But when it's a trainer who has barely stepped in to replace someone else.. especially having only been with the fighter like 4 months. (not enough time to completely change a fighter around) I can't... maybe if he looks even more impressive next time around, I will give him more credit.
I do give Mayweather Sr. credit for little Floyd.. you also have to give Roger some credit there too though.

[Sin City]

yeah, floyd definitely improved ricky, but ricky's the one in the ring

I think the better question would be:
Would Ricky be able to beat Paulie without Mayweather Sr. in his corner?

[Pullcounter]

I think the better question would be:
Would Ricky be able to beat Paulie without Mayweather Sr. in his corner?

yeah he would, but he'd win ugly

[Benny Leonard]

I give Nacho Bernstein props for Juan Ma and Rafa.. how could I not?
Dundee gets credit for teaching Ali...
But when it's a trainer who has barely stepped in to replace someone else.. especially having only been with the fighter like 4 months. (not enough time to completely change a fighter around) I can't... maybe if he looks even more impressive next time around, I will give him more credit.
I do give Mayweather Sr. credit for little Floyd.. you also have to give Roger some credit there too though.

Not so: Ali was already Great when he won the Olympic Gold. Dundee gets way to much credit for Ali and Leonard; both were great fighters when they went to Dundee and had already established themselves as great amatuers winning Gold. Both Ali and Leonard had something rare: They were true Generals in the ring. They understood the game because they were smart and their physical brilliance helped them become the Great fighters they were.


Dundee helped, but in a different way.

Here is Ali on the Dundee:

Go to 3:00





Floyd Mayweather Jr: AGREE with you.


Teddy Atlas and Kevin Rooney with Tyson is another good one...with Cus working on the philosophy of it all and over-looking the teachings and making corrections.