Calzaghe Insider: "We Have No Interest in Chad Dawson"

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  • andujar
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    #141
    lol

    what a joke calz is..... LOL

    I bet no one can answer the question with a list of fighters.

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    • P4P Opinion
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      #142
      Originally posted by Allucard
      Those were hand picked. Look at who they fought... Kessler is STILL fighting out of Denmark (what a great champion huh?) and Lacy just got schooled by Taylor, who was never that great of a fighter. B Hopp beat Calzaghe in many people opinions. I don't agree, i think Calzaghe slightly edged Hopkins that night but that was clearly because Hopkins couldn't fight for 12 rounds at age 43, which is only natural. Dawson would deliver in the first round about the same he'd do in the 12th and that is what puts Calzaghe on the run. Also Calzaghe wouldn't be the stronger man in the ring and we would have to see the guy fighting backwards (Cotto was so great until he had to do that, think Calzaghe could do it?).

      And please don't compare Dawson to Lacy or Kessler. Dawson's resume is already much better than both of those guys and he's the real champion in the division, not some guy coming up.
      Did I say anything of the sort? I wish people on this website would read what I write without presuming I mean something else as well. I was merely pointing out that Calzaghe has never had a problem taking on young, prime champions. Rate them or not, they both qualify.

      Now, as you bring it up I'll give you my opinions on both Lacy and Kessler. You seem to argue that as Lacy has looked like shit since fighting Calzaghe the win is a devalued one. This doesn't take into account Lacy's injuries since the fight, the possibility that Calzaghe may have ruined him and other random occurances too numerous to list. Therefore the argument is an irrelvant one. The only way to value a victory is to look at the fighters the opponent previously faced, the outcome on each occasion and the performance required to beat them. Looking at Lacy's record, this makes the victory a good but unspectacular one for Calzaghe especially considering how easy it was. Not that the hype surrounding Lacy, however irrelvant, should be forgotten.

      Kessler I value more highly. The man had defeated two champions, a then unbeaten prospect and a dangerous contender. Whether you value either as champions doesn't change the fact. I value Kessler as an excellent win because of this and the fact that he was extremely competitive with Calzaghe.

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      • Mizzou
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        #143
        I think it is a fight that will go 12 rounds. Neither fighter would really hurt eachother. I want to see because both fighters are fast...two styles that probably make for a pleasing fight.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #144
          Originally posted by P4P Opinion
          Did I say anything of the sort? I wish people on this website would read what I write without presuming I mean something else as well. I was merely pointing out that Calzaghe has never had a problem taking on young, prime champions. Rate them or not, they both qualify.

          Now, as you bring it up I'll give you my opinions on both Lacy and Kessler. You seem to argue that as Lacy has looked like shit since fighting Calzaghe the win is a devalued one. This doesn't take into account Lacy's injuries since the fight, the possibility that Calzaghe may have ruined him and other random occurances too numerous to list. Therefore the argument is an irrelvant one. The only way to value a victory is to look at the fighters the opponent previously faced, the outcome on each occasion and the performance required to beat them. Looking at Lacy's record, this makes the victory a good but unspectacular one for Calzaghe especially considering how easy it was. Not that the hype surrounding Lacy, however irrelvant, should be forgotten.

          Kessler I value more highly. The man had defeated two champions, a then unbeaten prospect and a dangerous contender. Whether you value either as champions doesn't change the fact. I value Kessler as an excellent win because of this and the fact that he was extremely competitive with Calzaghe.
          Let's see...

          Dawson has beaten Adamek, Johnson & Tarver

          Lacy beat Sheika & Vanderpool

          Kessler beat Mundine, Andrade & Beyer...

          Hmmm...yeah, I guess it's all equal compeition

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            #145
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Let's see...

            Dawson has beaten Adamek, Johnson & Tarver

            Lacy beat Sheika & Vanderpool

            Kessler beat Mundine, Andrade & Beyer...

            Hmmm...yeah, I guess it's all equal compeition
            what a ****ing troll! how many calz threads have you been on today?

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              #146
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Let's see...

              Dawson has beaten Adamek, Johnson & Tarver

              Lacy beat Sheika & Vanderpool

              Kessler beat Mundine, Andrade & Beyer...

              Hmmm...yeah, I guess it's all equal compeition
              Jesus, how fucking ****** are you?

              Originally posted by P4P Opinion
              I wish people on this website would read what I write without presuming I mean something else as well.
              Read what I say. Do not presume I say anything else. Not once did I suggest that either Lacy or Kessler have better resumes than Dawson.

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                #147
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Let's see...

                Dawson has beaten Adamek, Johnson & Tarver

                Lacy beat Sheika & Vanderpool

                Kessler beat Mundine, Andrade & Beyer...

                Hmmm...yeah, I guess it's all equal compeition
                2 40 year olds and an unproven weightdrained CW > Kessler's KO's of former champions and wins on his opponents hometurf?

                That's a good joke. Do you have more?

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by mr.crust
                  what a ****ing troll! how many calz threads have you been on today?
                  Less than you

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by BatTheMan
                    2 40 year olds and an unproven weightdrained CW > Kessler's KO's of former champions and wins on his opponents hometurf?

                    That's a good joke. Do you have more?
                    LOL...you guys are hilarious. Who's next for Kessler? Huh?

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      LOL...you guys are hilarious. Who's next for Kessler? Huh?
                      Don't underestimate yourself. You are also extremely funny.

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