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  • Pullcounter
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    #121
    Originally posted by BatTheMan
    Calzaghe vs. Hopkins was a snoozefest. A sequel is not a mouthwatering prospect in my book.
    and yet calz got put on his ass, calz threw over 1000 punches / round, and bhop was calz's hardest fight to date.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #122
      Originally posted by BatTheMan
      Calzaghe vs. Hopkins was a snoozefest. A sequel is not a mouthwatering prospect in my book.
      1.Were you expecting Fight of the Year for their first fight? Exactly.

      2. It was a close split decision that many observers were split on. That alone warrants a rematch.

      3. Snoozefests require rematches when it's a fight of this magnitude. Pernell Whitaker, anyone?

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        #123
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        1.Were you expecting Fight of the Year for their first fight? Exactly.
        Something better then that at least, if Hopkins decides to actually fight instead of run, fake injury, head but and hold. That much to ask?

        2. It was a close split decision that many observers were split on. That alone warrants a rematch.
        Close split decision? One judge scored it by one measley round to Hopkins. Two others scored in close consensus more in line with the majority of public opinion. One a clear 3 rounds, the other a wide 5 rounds which is more than Taylor ever managed. That is not a close SD, it is the thinnest of SD's you can get, and borderline UD.

        3. Snoozefests require rematches when it's a fight of this magnitude. Pernell Whitaker, anyone?
        You now dictate what constitutes a rematch clause even when there wasn't one and most agree on the winner, do you? Wasn't aware you'd taken that position up in boxing.

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          #124
          Close split decision? One judge scored it by one measley round to Hopkins. Two others scored in close consensus more in line with the majority of public opinion. One a clear 3 rounds, the other a wide 5 rounds which is more than Taylor ever managed. That is not a close SD, it is the thinnest of SD's you can get, and borderline UD.
          So? It was a close fight, why pretend it wasn't? Ringsiders booed the decision, a fair share of press row had Hopkins winning and so did many viewers. You don't hear anyone clamoring for a Jones rematch, do you? Yet the Hopkins rematch is discussed quite a bit.



          You now dictate what constitutes a rematch clause even when there wasn't one and most agree on the winner, do you? Wasn't aware you'd taken that position up in boxing.
          I'm on a boxing forum expressing my opinion. Kinda like when YOU say there shouldn't be a rematch. If you're too slow to understand that, I forgive you. If you're trying to be cute you failed.

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            #125
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            So? It was a close fight, why pretend it wasn't? Ringsiders booed the decision, a fair share of press row had Hopkins winning and so did many viewers. You don't hear anyone clamoring for a Jones rematch, do you? Yet the Hopkins rematch is discussed quite a bit.
            Exactly, it wasn't a close split decision like you just said and is often made out, it was about as thin as a SD gets. Thats the fact. A lot of closer fights are just about a UD by 1/2 rounds which is in a way closer because there's more consensus of it being a close fight. With the Cal-Hops, the majority of the judges scored it a clear win for the winner of 3, and 5 rounds.

            I'm on a boxing forum expressing my opinion. Kinda like when YOU say there shouldn't be a rematch. If you're too slow to understand that, I forgive you. If you're trying to be cute you failed.
            It was just the way you said a close SD constituents a rematch that's all, like it's some kind of fact. It's not it's your view, and it's far from the majority view I'm afraid, certainly in the world. Only a real minority was crying for a rematch post fight, not even you though I could be wrong. It was a win over a shot fighter so undermined. Hopkins schools Pavlik and now suddenly he's not shot, but it's still just a less small than previous, minority.

            Sorry, if the fight was that close there'd be a significant call for a rematch immediately post fight, more than that of Johnson-Dawson. There wasn't, and there won't be a rematch. Just like there won't be for a lot of other close fights. They'll always be some whom disagree. Get over it.

            I don't mind a slight diss on Joe for not facing Dawson, but as for re-matching Hopkins after it being called a win over a shot fighter, sorry I just call blatant convenient changing of ones apparent view, based on another performance by the loser, and biases.

            Most agree it'd be a clearer win next time, more boring and pointless. Just slightly less so now oddly. That's the situation.
            Last edited by Kris Silver; 11-23-2008, 12:25 PM.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Chase8400
              I really don't know how that had anything to do with my post or not, but as you see there in my avatar, where it says "undisputed champion", that means I know what i'm talking about and you are speaking out of your ass. What it comes down to is Joe Calzaghe finally grew a sack and came over to the US to make a name for himself of off faded fighters who should all but be retired. He was not confident enough to try and fight Jones pre-KO losses and that will be his stamp forever, in my opinion.

              In closing, sure Calzaghe would not want to fight a prime American fighter like Dawson, that would be too risky. He will fight Glenn Johnson who he avoided until he got old as well.

              Your dismissed. Next time I want an apple for a schooling like that.
              having undisputed champion under your name doesnt mean ****! bsrizpac and imdazed have both got that,and neither of those know what the **** they are talking about!

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                #127
                Exactly, it wasn't a close split decision like you just said and is often made out, it was about as thin as a SD gets. Thats the fact. A lot of closer fights are just about a UD by 1/2 rounds which is in a way closer because there's more consensus of it being a close fight. With the Cal-Hops, the majority of the judges scored it a clear win for the winner of 3, and 5 rounds.
                Thanks for clarifying but the bottom line is that it was a close fight, like it or not.


                It was just the way you said a close SD constituents a rematch that's all, like it's some kind of fact. It's not it's your view, and it's far from the majority view I'm afraid, certainly in the world. No one was crying for a rematch post fight, not even you though I could be wrong.
                It was a win over a shot fighter so undermined. Hopkins schools Pavlik and suddenly he's not shot and people cry for a re match. Sorry, if the fight was that close there'd be a significant call for a rematch immediately post fight, more than that of Johnson-Dawson. There wasn't, and there won't be a rematch. Just like there won't be for a lot of other close fights. They'll always be some whom disagree. Get over it.
                LOL, I'm over it. Why should there be a rematch when boxing fans don't want to see it because it will be boring? Oh wait, those aren't boxing fans, those are Calzaghe fans.
                I don't mind a slight diss on Joe for not facing Dawson, but as for re-matching Hopkins after it being called a win over a shot fighter, sorry I just call blatant convenient changing of ones apparent view, based on another performance by the loser, and biases.
                Pot meet kettle.

                Most agree it'd be a clearer win next time, more boring and pointless. Just slightly less so now oddly. That's the situation.
                Kettle meet pot.

                LOL@ the Calzaghe fans dismissing a Hopkins rematch and being forgiving that Calzaghe probably won't fight Dawson. You guys are like his mom, "let him retire!" while other fans are actually excited and discussing the possibility of either fight.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by mr.crust
                  having undisputed champion under your name doesnt mean ****! bsrizpac and imdazed have both got that,and neither of those know what the **** they are talking about!
                  That is the ultimate compliment.

                  Thanks, man

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                    #129
                    anytime

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Thanks for clarifying but the bottom line is that it was a close fight, like it or not.




                      LOL, I'm over it. Why should there be a rematch when boxing fans don't want to see it because it will be boring? Oh wait, those aren't boxing fans, those are Calzaghe fans.


                      Pot meet kettle.



                      Kettle meet pot.

                      LOL@ the Calzaghe fans dismissing a Hopkins rematch and being forgiving that Calzaghe probably won't fight Dawson. You guys are like his mom, "let him retire!" while other fans are actually excited and discussing the possibility of either fight.
                      yeah, calz fans know bhop and dawson are legit threats thats why they want calz to retire undefeated.

                      I think calz should fight both... i actually believe calz can beat them both.

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