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  • adrsan84
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    #241
    Originally posted by adrsan84
    All I will say is this. Antonio Margarito sold out the Home depot center as a champion well before he won his high exposure fight, I was there and nobody can convince me otherwise. Shane Mosley fought in the same arena vs Mayorga who's drawing power eclipses a 07 (or current) Williams, and filled about 1/3 of the seats. Tony's fight against Cotto sold at least 450,000 ppv acoording to ESPN, and Mosley has never done that unless he is fighting Oscar. Tony is at the top of his game, fame, and status. Shane is on his way down, and has always been the opponent, even in his highest grossing fights. If not the case, not knowing the numbers on his winkey or forrest fights i would look at those numbers and compare them to the 450,000 (pre recession too, haha lol, jk).

    Tony is the draw now.

    About williams, get him a real offer, he will take it if the money is decent, i know he wants back at him based on interviews i've seen on spanish network tv shows, but top rank hates goosen at really ties him up on that.
    To be clear. I think Tony needs to fight Williams, he sure as hell dissapointed me that night with his "boxing" attempt early, and I realise the limitations. But I also realise that he has become quite a name in the latino community and can generate numbers worthy of a favorable split against Mosley, and a real offer that can not be quoted as 4 Million to the top rank team :for his services", big poppa pump back me up on this if it's not what the press release explicitly said then I will admit that 4 million gauranteed is a considerable amount which he is ****** to deny.

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #242
      Originally posted by adrsan84
      All I will say is this. Antonio Margarito sold out the Home depot center as a champion well before he won his high exposure fight, I was there and nobody can convince me otherwise. Shane Mosley fought in the same arena vs Mayorga who's drawing power eclipses a 07 (or current) Williams, and filled about 1/3 of the seats. Tony's fight against Cotto sold at least 450,000 ppv acoording to ESPN, and Mosley has never done that unless he is fighting Oscar. Tony is at the top of his game, fame, and status. Shane is on his way down, and has always been the opponent, even in his highest grossing fights. If not the case, not knowing the numbers on his winkey or forrest fights i would look at those numbers and compare them to the 450,000 (pre recession too, haha lol, jk).

      Tony is the draw now.

      About williams, get him a real offer, he will take it if the money is decent, i know he wants back at him based on interviews i've seen on spanish network tv shows, but top rank hates goosen at really ties him up on that.


      Some guys have it stuck in their heads that because fighter A has fought more years, against bigger names, that he is automatically the bigger draw.

      Hard, cold facts can't even convince them otherwise.

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      • ricky1978
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        #243
        boxing is not the same anymore.....

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        • FRESHMC2
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          #244
          margarito should really get over himself... first he cancelled the nov.7 fight with colttey, now hes scared of mosley!!!

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            #245
            Originally posted by adrsan84
            To be clear. I think Tony needs to fight Williams, he sure as hell dissapointed me that night with his "boxing" attempt early, and I realise the limitations. But I also realise that he has become quite a name in the latino community and can generate numbers worthy of a favorable split against Mosley, and a real offer that can not be quoted as 4 Million to the top rank team :for his services", big poppa pump back me up on this if it's not what the press release explicitly said then I will admit that 4 million gauranteed is a considerable amount which he is ****** to deny.
            There's no way Mosley would deserve more than $1.5M against Tony as that is the same he took to fight Mayorga in a fight that barely drew 5000 attendance.

            That $4Million offer from Williams/Goosen was against 50% of the gross revenues and Goosen would take over as the lead promoter of the event. With those terms, Margarito would be lucky to receive $2Million from Arum not that Top Rank would ever agree to such an arrangement in the first place.

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              #246
              Originally posted by nozorok
              There's no way Mosley would deserve more than $1.5M against Tony as that is the same he took to fight Mayorga in a fight that barely drew 5000 attendance.

              That $4Million offer from Williams/Goosen was against 50% of the gross revenues and Goosen would take over as the lead promoter of the event. With those terms, Margarito would be lucky to receive $2Million from Arum not that Top Rank would ever agree to such an arrangement in the first place.
              The 4 mil offer was just bull****. If it was real though, I agree with your opinion.

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              • oc9979
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                #247
                Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
                Las Vegas.


                Back to Shane.

                He was born and raised in CA. Pomona is only an hour away from HDC.


                4-23-05

                Las Vegas
                Headliner
                Antonio Margarito


                on the undercard,

                Shane Mosley.



                PPVs


                Shanes last fight was on cable. HBO to be exact.
                Tonys was on PPV.

                That same HBO.
                tony last fight was on ppv because he was fighting cotto. before that tony was fighting on the undercard of cotto.

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                • sportsplato
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                  #248
                  Sounds like Margs is looking for that Pwill offer. Goosen will probably have the contract in the ring after Verno gets "Punished". But it will not say 4 mill anymore, around 3.3. If I were Margs, I would rather fight Pwill for 3.3 or more, than fight SSM for 2 mill flat.

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                  • goldenglove2
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                    #249
                    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                    I had very little respect for Margarito as a fighter before. But I always thought he was sincere when he said he'd fight anybody.

                    In 3 months, he's ducked more people than Mayweather supposedly ducked in 3 years.

                    He ducked Williams
                    He ducked a Clottey rematch
                    He ducked Mosley

                    This is getting pathetic. Since when does beating Miguel Cotto make you a superstar? Shane Mosley beat Oscar De La Hoya. Margarito has never done anything close to comparable to that.
                    it makes you get the bigger split when facing a guy who LOST to Miguel Cotto, who doesnt even have a title.
                    Last edited by goldenglove2; 11-24-2008, 10:48 AM.

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                    • goldenglove2
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by oc9979
                      tony last fight was on ppv because he was fighting cotto. before that tony was fighting on the undercard of cotto.
                      before that SSm fought on the undercard of a Antonio Margarito fight.
                      Last edited by goldenglove2; 11-24-2008, 10:48 AM.

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