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  • Benny Leonard
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    #11
    Floyd at the end of his careeer fought at 147...he walked around at about 150.

    This is why I said there was no advantage for Floyd in the Hatton fight. Fighters at 140 come into fights usually around 147-149; same weight Floyd comes into fights at Welter.

    But of course, people want to say "well the fight was at 147, that's not Hatton's weight-class"

    It was a 140 pound fight without having the fighters dehydrate to make weight...that's my point.

    Fighters at 147 will usually come in 5-15 pound over that.

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    • JAB5239
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      #12
      Originally posted by Thread Stealer
      I disagree.

      He was faster in the lower weight classes.
      I think he threw more punches in the lower weight classes and wasn't as worried about being hit.

      I did'nt mean it to sound like he retained ALL the speed he had at say 130. But comparitively it was right there.

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      • JAB5239
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        #13
        Originally posted by Benny Leonard
        Floyd at the end of his careeer fought at 147...he walked around at about 150.

        This is why I said there was no advantage for Floyd in the Hatton fight. Fighters at 140 come into fights usually around 147-149; same weight Floyd comes into fights at Welter.

        But of course, people want to say "well the fight was at 147, that's not Hatton's weight-class"

        It was a 140 pound fight without having the fighters dehydrate to make weight...that's my point.

        Fighters at 147 will usually come in 5-15 pound over that.
        Much of that could easily be solved by going back to same day weigh-ins.

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        • Thread Stealer
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          #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Much of that could easily be solved by going back to same day weigh-ins.
          Yes, yes, yes.

          I always hear people talk about "we should go back to 15 rounds".

          Probably, but I care more about the weigh-in procedures.

          It's supposed to be safer because they have more time to rehydrate. Is it really safer though?

          I don't like the idea of a guy outweighing his opponent by 10-15 pounds in the ring, when they're supposed to be the same size. That's why there are weight classes.

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          • JAB5239
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            #15
            Originally posted by Thread Stealer
            Yes, yes, yes.

            I always hear people talk about "we should go back to 15 rounds".

            Probably, but I care more about the weigh-in procedures.

            It's supposed to be safer because they have more time to rehydrate. Is it really safer though?

            I don't like the idea of a guy outweighing his opponent by 10-15 pounds in the ring, when they're supposed to be the same size. That's why there are weight classes.

            Exactly. This would also solve much of the debate about "natural weigh". Ask Joe Gamache if he thinks its safer for fighters to rehydrate a day and a half before the fight. Gatti knocking him silly is one of my favorite ko's, but I wouldn't exactly call it fair.

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