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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostI just find it staggering that you went on for weeks about how Jones was not shot and was gonna KO Calzaghe in 6 rounds.
Now you claim that Roy is so shot that even Lennox who hasnt fought in 15 years might be in better condition.
Sigh.
As you know, Lewis has been retired only 5 years and Vitali made a successful comeback after 4. If Lennox is so great and was not on the decline before retirement, he should be able to have a few good fights if he comes back. *Vitali still beats his ass.
>You know Jones has been in heavy decline and even said Joe would get beat by a prime Jones, so I don't know why you even argue.
.....I guess you argue to feel alive. I suggest you look for another hobby man, this crap is pathetic.
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Originally posted by The Gully Gad View PostFor me that fight right there was 50/50 and either fighter could of won that.
It was obvious Lewis couldnt bomb out Vit cuz he was taking big shots all night and was still there..Lewis on the otherhand can be stopped at any time with a big shot.
Who knows if VK could of finished him off.Lewis was tired and so was VK but lewis to me looked more drained of the two.He slumped back on the his stool just before the fight was stopped.It was anyone's fight from there onwards...
The eyeBROW diagonal cut was COMPLETELY contained, since it, being in the fleshy party, with no veins or arteries around, only seeped rather than bled. The picture of K next to Schwatrzenegger, which anti-K's love to show, is highly enhanced with fake blood etc. as are the minor paper-type cuts below his eye. His face was a bit red from the action, as anyones' would have been particularly a very naturally pale-skinned guy like K.
One must be factual and logical about the "eye-cut" but most aren't, so....what the hell. let them stew in their besotted ignorance.........??????
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Originally posted by SkilledBoxer View Postthis would be interesting to see how he bounces back from such a long time off
would he take 2-3 tune ups then a belt perhaps?
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Originally posted by paul750 View PostIt is fair to say Lewis almost certainly underestimated Klitschko at the time, as have many of his opponents. The vast majority of people at the time thought Wladimir was the better fighter, Lewis included. The fact remains that Klitschko didn't fully exploit an under motivated and aging Lewis, and a Lewis not in the best physical condition he could be in. The cuts were real, and that was Lewis' doing. It was up to Klitschko to prevent Lewis landing those shots that cut him. The win was a legitimate win for Lewis, that is a fact the biased Klitschko fans don't seem to want to accept.
It was clearly a tough fight for Lewis and left people feeling it wasn't finished business. But the actual win itself was a fair decision. What would of happened had it not been stopped is merely speculation. Being cut is part of boxing, the same way as being knocked out is.
I don't believe it was just a 'freak' one-off. There was at least three separate cuts on Klitschko's face. Klitschko does seem to have a very good chin, but obviously his skin let him down. Look at someone like Oliver McCall: not only does he have an exceptional chin, but he doesn't even seem to get cut either. Being knocked out and being cut are part of boxing.
If someone is winning 11 rounds then gets knocked out, it is still a legitimate loss, just as Vitali's was. Does that mean the better fighter on the night won? Maybe not. Was it a convincing win? Of course not. But the childish rubbish should really end.
The EYBROW cut was in the fleshy part, therefore LOOKED bad, because we ciould see cut flesh, but wasn't bleeding very much. It was contained almost immediately, and thereafter played NO PART in the fight except that the ******, rash dr. stopped the fight for specious reasons. Lewis hit that area several times later, without either worsening or making bleed the irrelevant cut.
The under eye cuts WERE in a part where there were many capillary vessels which caused more bleeding than the eyebrow, although the cuts were completely superficial, UNDER the eye, very thin scratches like paper cuts which were immediately stopped by the cut man, and again played NO PART in the fight.
At trhe fight's end, even with the pictures that anti-K's love to show, his eye is fully OPEN, glaring at the doc. NO eyebrow drooping (the ****** Dr. based his stoppage on),
So guy, get sense, and use it.
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Originally posted by paul750 View PostLewis seemed to be getting stronger as the fight went on, albeit very gassed looking at the end. Klitschko had cuts to his eyebrow, eyelid and cheek and it looked absolutely terrible. I think he may have also been bleeding from the mouth if I recall. This nonsense will just run and run.
Bleeding aropund the eyes anywhwere which doesn't interfere witn the guy's ability to fight, and won'y risk his health, are just fine,
The reason Klitschko, as well as his many supporters were upset, was because that everyone could see that Lewis was seriously DONE, and K was kust getting his second-wind".
Believe me, you just need to forget emotion and visual influence, and accept only the facts. Like in "DRAGNET".
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Originally posted by Mugwump View Post1. It was Lewis who took the last rounds of the fight - not Klitschko. Not bad for someone who was "done".
2. That eye injury was one of the worst I've seen. The referee has a duty to protect both fighters from permanent injury and he was absolutely right to stop that fight. One more Lewis bomb could have torn his face off.
Amd whilst we're talking about the cut, it was NOT a cut eye. It was an EYEBROW CUT. not lateral but rather diagonal and with sideway exit, makin a kind of "V", It ran from left to rt, and the cut man Joe De Souza tried at first to treat it as if it ran the opposite way, which made it easy for his right hand. He should have used his LEFT hand.
The point is, that neither the eyebrow cut,{which looked bad becasuse it was in the fleshy, but almost bloodless eyebrow, and was under control at rds end} nor the under eye cuts{ which looked like paper cuts, which bled, but also qwere under control. }
The facts are, that the cuts DIDF NOT affect his vision, nor his ability to fight, and, contrary to what that ****** doctor thought, (he changed his mind several times as to the reasons he stopped the fight) should have had no effect on the fight whatsoever.
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