Who's more overatted Margarito or Calzaghe??

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  • _Hunter_
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    #71
    calzaghe ****d hopkins gawwwwwd. that makes him ATG

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    • SonOfCuba
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      #72
      Joe Calzaghe

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      • Ray  Ray
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        #73
        Originally posted by Tito1
        How did Hopkins recognition start? thats right by beating 2 blownup welterweights, hos that for overrated!
        So now Tito is blown up Welterweight?....I thought he just Ko Joppy before the Hopkins fight (which Hopkins couldnt do) yet you call him a blown up Welterweight.

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        • Mr. Fantastic
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          #74
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          Notable wins

          Lacy = BUM
          Kessler = Unproven
          B-Hop past it and I didn't think he won
          RJJ shot...

          I can't even go as far as to respect him...You can hate someone and still respect him but

          His resume deserves to be "peeleft: at.
          How could you say BHop is past it?? That's right he beat up a smaller guy coming up to face him in Pavlik. A win over BHop is still a win over him, no matter how ugly the fight was.
          And if RJJ would of won, I'm willing to bet everyone would be saying RJJ is an all time top 5 or **** like that or Cal is a bum.

          So if Calzaghe is overrated then alot of the legends of boxing are overrated too. Some examples are Mike Tyson/Jones, Tyson fought alot of Bums to knock them out, no one was saying ****. You never know which one of those bums has your number(Douglas vs Tyson). RJJ was beating up cops and other type of bums. Calzaghe had the balls to come here, he didn't have to.

          I hate to admit but some American boxers are spoiled. U.S. isn't the only place that has boxing you know. Before you say $$$$, don't forget Cal can most likely stay in Europe and make more money fighting over there.

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          • Mr. Fantastic
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            #75
            Originally posted by Ray Ray
            So now Tito is blown up Welterweight?....I thought he just Ko Joppy before the Hopkins fight (which Hopkins couldnt do) yet you call him a blown up Welterweight.
            Hopkins is leagues better than Joppy. I take it you didn't notice the size difference vs Trinidad.

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            • SonOfCuba
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              #76
              this poll was all even at 18, not its all even at 32... thats wierd.

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              • Ray  Ray
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                #77
                Originally posted by chicano79us
                Hopkins is leagues better than Joppy. I take it you didn't notice the size difference vs Trinidad.
                Dude, Tito was favored to beat Hopkins...I'm sorry that excuse doesnt work man...Tito did something Hopkins couldnt do to Joppy.(KO him)

                I saw the difference...and lets not forget Hopkins came in under the Middleweight limit for that fight...So thats a moot point...Hopkins beat Tito with sheer skill instead of his size so I dont see what point you're trying to stress...Yes, I did watch the fight...I watch it damn near 3-4 times a week.

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                • Mr. Fantastic
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Ray Ray
                  Dude, Tito was favored to beat Hopkins...I'm sorry that excuse doesnt work man...Tito did something Hopkins couldnt do to Joppy.(KO him)

                  I saw the difference...and lets not forget Hopkins came in under the Middleweight limit for that fight...So thats a moot point...Hopkins beat Tito with sheer skill instead of his size so I dont see what point you're trying to stress...Yes, I did watch the fight...I watch it damn near 3-4 times a week.

                  So was Pavlik. Tito is a knockout artist, Hopkins isn't IMO(Joppy). Styles makes fights, Tito has had problems with some Boxers. I believe size played a big role in his defeat, not just skills.

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                  • Ray  Ray
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by chicano79us
                    So was Pavlik. Tito is a knockout artist, Hopkins isn't IMO(Joppy). Styles makes fights, Tito has had problems with some Boxers. I believe size played a big role in his defeat, not just skills.
                    Fair enough!

                    The point still remains is that Hopkins took away Tito best weapons...I dont think size has anything to do with it IMO...It takes skills for you to take away someone's strength...If thats the case why didnt Hopkins bullrush Tito if he was the bigger and stronger fighter?

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                      #80
                      it's split right down the middle!
                      to be honest, the Margo fans can be annoying but they don't over rate him as much as the Zaghe fans do. They'll prob say he is the best welter out there, yeah... but Joe's fans will say he could have beaten anyone in his prime, he would of did the same to Roy when he was younger, etc.

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