Who's more overatted Margarito or Calzaghe??

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  • Caxcan
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    #11
    Originally posted by mangler
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    • El Dominicano
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      #12
      Originally posted by xxjace
      Honestly who's more overated??

      One has beat one big name and avoids his biggest payday because he thinks he's a superstar..

      The other beat a few average fighters and beat 2 older guys well past there prime to cement his own legacy in his head..
      Margarito beat Cintron when he was undefeated...dude just walked right threw him. He also beat Clottey and Miguel Cotto...NOT to mention Margarito was the under dog against Cotto. He also beat Sergio Martinez by T.K.O...handed him his 1st defeat

      Now as for Calzaghe

      Lacy = BUM
      Kessler = Decent win ONLY problem is Kessler is STILL unproven
      I give him credit for B-Hop altough I felt he lost and NOT to mention B-Hop is 43
      RJJ was SHOT!! Damn SHOT

      I know I sound like a hater but I speak the TRUTH...

      Calzaghe = Overated

      I wouldn't say Margarito is overated cuz the guy has a damn good resume...I just don't like the fact that he hasn't showed interest in avenging his lose to Paul
      Last edited by El Dominicano; 11-20-2008, 12:32 AM.

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      • Flawless 2
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        #13
        Originally posted by Clegg
        All of the people you named in order to criticise Calzaghe have proved more and are better fighters than Cintron.

        I have explained to you that Eubank was not weight drained and you had no answer. Stop saying it unless you can back it up with facts.

        The fuck, you know Eubank took the Calzaghe fight at short notice. He was past his prime you know that right and you know he entered a 2 week weight draining regime to make 168 when he was meant to fight for the WBC intercontinental light-heavyweight title,

        Eubank said in a interview he did eneter the 2 week weight draining regime to make weight


        He was targeting to make 175 but took Calzaghe fight meaning he has to lose extra 7 pounds, yet you say he was not weight drained

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        • xxjace
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          #14
          Originally posted by Clegg
          You have a sig of Cotto, and an avatar of Hopkins.

          Bitter much?
          Hopkins lost according to the judges.Cotto clearly lost........

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          • xxjace
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            #15
            Originally posted by El Dominicano
            Margarito beat Cintron when he was undefeated...dude just walked right threw him. He also beat Clottey and Miguel Cotto...NOT to mention Margarito was the under dog against Cotto. He also beat Sergio Martinez by T.K.O...handed him his 1st defeat

            Now as for Calzaghe

            Lacy = BUM
            Kessler = Decent win ONLY problem is Kessler is STILL unproven
            I give him credit for B-Hop altough I felt he lost and NOT to mention B-Hop is 43
            RJJ was SHOT!! Damn SHOT

            I know I sound like a hater but I speak the TRUTH...

            Calzaghe = Overated

            I wouldn't say Margarito is overated cuz the guy has a damn good resume...I just don't like the fact that he hasn't showed interest in avenging his lose to Paul
            very well put..

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            • xxjace
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              #16
              Originally posted by JaguarJames
              i co-sign your co-sign
              I co-sign your co-sign also

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              • Tito1
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                #17
                Originally posted by xxjace
                Honestly who's more overated??

                One has beat one big name and avoids his biggest payday because he thinks he's a superstar..

                The other beat a few average fighters and beat 2 older guys well past there prime to cement his own legacy in his head..
                How did Hopkins recognition start? thats right by beating 2 blownup welterweights, hos that for overrated!

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                • xxjace
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                  #18
                  .............ugh..............yeah

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                  • Clegg
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Flawless 2
                    The fuck, you know Eubank took the Calzaghe fight at short notice. He was past his prime you know that right
                    Irrelevant. Being past-prime and being weight-drained is not the same thing.
                    Originally posted by Flawless 2
                    and you know he entered a 2 week weight draining regime to make 168 when he was meant to fight for the WBC intercontinental light-heavyweight title,

                    Eubank said in a interview he did eneter the 2 week weight draining regime to make weight


                    He was targeting to make 175 but took Calzaghe fight meaning he has to lose extra 7 pounds, yet you say he was not weight drained
                    Yes, because this was normal for Eubank. Watch his fights with Benn. He is clearly the bigger man. Like Gatti and several others, Eubank lost a lot of weight when it was close to the weigh in, and then put it all back before fight time.

                    Read this:

                    It has become increasingly apparent over the last decade there are huge differences between the attitudes and capabilities of individual fighters regarding what bodybuilders call "crash weight gain". Like the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the BBBC is currently investigating the extent to which this ability varies from fighter to fighter. Simon Block confirmed that they have already found "significant differences" in the ability of individual fighters to quickly pile on weight.

                    These findings do not surprise Watt, who, from his ringside commentary position over the years, has seen first hand huge weight discrepancies.

                    "Chris Eubank, for example, walked around a good stone and a half above his fighting weight between fights. He dragged all the liquid out of his body at 7pm one night and had until 11pm the next night to pack as much of that weight as possible back on. I don't know exactly how much he managed to [put back on], but when you saw him next to a Nigel Benn you had no doubts he was no longer anywhere near the proper weight limit."

                    Watt's specific example of Eubank seems very apt in light of the fact that Eubank gave world cruiserweight champion Carl Thompson two epic battles.

                    Interestingly, even though Watt characterises weight crashing as "an unfair advantage" he stops short of accusing its practitioners of cheating.

                    "It's not cheating because the rules don't forbid it - in fact they actually encourage it. Fellows like Gatti and Eubank, and I hate to keep using them as examples but they are the two famous for it, are using the system to their great advantage. And they are perfectly entitled to do so. They are exploiting an opportunity to their advantage and why not? Boxing is competition.


                    The reason that you don't understand this is because you need to watch fights to know about it. Boxrec won't help you on this one.

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                    • Danny Gunz
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                      #20
                      Margarito isnt overrated at all calzaghe on the other hand has managed to put together a ATG record without having one hard fight so yes i think calzaghe is overrated

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