Who deserves more credit

[Flawless 2]

Judah IS still Kostya best win regardless of what he did after the fight, pretty weak resume. Finishing his career on the stool was pretty disgraceful when he could have gone for one more round

[CaRnAgEViOLaToR]

people sometimes forget mayweather took on castillo/corrales in their prime...2 very dangerous fighters who's skill level and attributes were probably p4p

[Benny Leonard]

Judah IS still Kostya best win regardless of what he did after the fight, pretty weak resume. Finishing his career on the stool was pretty disgraceful when he could have gone for one more round

He could have gone out there, but he would have just taking more punishment.

Tszyu was breathing through his mouth by rond 5 and I was surprised he actually kept fighting the way he did as long as he did. Even though I knew inactivity isn't good for a fighter, once he breathing through his mouth I was kind of stunned. I think they said Kostya suffered a concussion. At first it was reported bleeding on the brain, but that was played down to a Concussion. He was Old; Mentally he had changed. This happens.

Arguello could have gotten up against Pryor but he didn't.

Duran quit against Leonard.

Sugar Ray Leonard didn't come out and was stopped on his stool...even if he was passed out.

Chavez quit against Oscar...even though he says he didn't.

It's the way it is.



I like Floyd; I think he is a great fighter. His legacy is decent under 147, but it can be argued he ran from the competition at 147, which is why his resume there isn't strong. But I'll give him credit for moving up in weight when others don't.

[Flawless 2]

Mayweather beat Kostya best win easily, he beat Oscar at 154 ( a much harder hitter than Kostya) and also fought Hatton (but at 147). I don't think a fight at 140 would be that much different

[Flawless 2]

You know Mayweather beat better fighters than Kostya right??

[Wiley Hyena]

Did he also soften up Hatton for mayweather as well??

The sad thing is Judah is his best name on his resume, and always will be. Quit like a coward in his last match

Miguel Angel Gonzales was a legendary Mexican champion. Tszyu KOd him in 10. Julio Cesar Chavez was a fairly big name too, maybe a little bigger than Zab Judah....that was over in 6 (I'll grant you that Chavez was 38, but still...). Livingstone Bramble lost a decision to Tszyu in 1993, he was the only man to go past 2 rounds with Tszyu that year. Of course Tszyu blasted Sharmba Mitchell in round 7 in 2001 and then again in round 3 in 2004. But, let's take it back to 1991...Tszyu dominated Vernon Forrest in the amateur world championship.

I guess what I'm saying is that there are lots of bigger names than Judah on Tszyu's resume. Again....you just don't know what you're talking about. Quite obvious.

[Wiley Hyena]

Look at Judah on his road up to Tszyu, and then look at him after.

Mentally and Physically Judah was at his best going into that fight. After that KO, he was a mess. He would go up and down and never be consistent again Mentally or physically.

Kostya popped his cherry and Floyd got a broken down Judah.

Gatti's been stopped plenty of times and was washed up.

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There is no doubt about this. Zab was peaking and expected to be the next boxing superstar when he fought Tszyu. I give Zab credit for fighting just about anybody (unlike Floyd)...nobody can take that away from him. Anyway, Tszyu blew him up and Judah was never the same after that. Never.

I've always suspected the Floyd's uncle Roger may have been behind Floyd's hesitation to fight Kostya Tszyu. After all, Tszyu defeated Roger, too....way back when.

[super_joe]

Joe doesn't get the credit he deserves. Floyd gets too much already.

Thats very true!!!!

[Flawless 2]

Miguel Angel Gonzales was a legendary Mexican champion. Tszyu KOd him in 10. Julio Cesar Chavez was a fairly big name too, maybe a little bigger than Zab Judah....that was over in 6 (I'll grant you that Chavez was 38, but still...). Livingstone Bramble lost a decision to Tszyu in 1993, he was the only man to go past 2 rounds with Tszyu that year. Of course Tszyu blasted Sharmba Mitchell in round 7 in 2001 and then again in round 3 in 2004. But, let's take it back to 1991...Tszyu dominated Vernon Forrest in the amateur world championship.

I guess what I'm saying is that there are lots of bigger names than Judah on Tszyu's resume. Again....you just don't know what you're talking about. Quite obvious.

Miguel was never a legendary Mexican warrior and he was past it. JCC was past it as well so was Mayweather. This is professional not amateurs. What happened their doesn't matter.

The fact The biggest name in Kostya resume is Judah which Mayweather Cotto and Clottey all beat convincingly

[Wiley Hyena]

Miguel was never a legendary Mexican warrior and he was past it. JCC was past it as well so was Mayweather. This is professional not amateurs. What happened their doesn't matter.

The fact The biggest name in Kostya resume is Judah which Mayweather Cotto and Clottey all beat convincingly

Go back and read. And, if you can't do that, look at the pictures. You've alot to learn.

Floyd dodged Tszyu. There's a reason for this. Probably Tszyu's laser right hand.