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  • WhoreUs
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    #51
    Originally posted by El Dominicano
    Pink I still can't believe I found out so LATE that yu were Tua. I should have F'ing known! The idolizing of fat people, I simply, ignored Patrick on your avy, the hating of B-Hop, why did it take me so long??
    lmao

    are you a knicks fan? they're looking okay this year...... fun to watch too.

    my lakers are doing aight......wait 'til they get out of their shooting slump...... they just haven't been playing well the first 8 games........

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    • El Dominicano
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      #52
      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
      physical attributes count as skill.......

      floyd might be more polished than roy but roy had better physical skills.
      P4P RJJ had the better speed and power? Simply, the MUCH better athlete but that is it. A skilled fighter is a fighter when hmmmm...for example, he loses all his speed, power and reflexes, yet manages to STILL be a dominant fighter. Even NOW, Keyword: NOW RJJ has GREAT speed and good power because of his physical attributes...Problem is there is very little skill to go with it, considering how RJJ in his prime was solely dependent on his atletic ability

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      • larryx
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        #53
        Originally posted by El Dominicano
        To the bold NO! and Hell No!

        A great athlete does not count as a great skilled fighter. Leonard was all power, speed, footwork...what about his defense? Did we see a NOT great but a good display of defense against Hearns, Duran Hagler? Nope...

        Ali and James Toney yes...But I know fighters who aren't GREAT yet are more skilled then Ali. Ali's strong point was HEART
        damn good point

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        • WhoreUs
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          #54
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          P4P RJJ had the better speed and power? Simply, the MUCH better athlete but that is it. A skilled fighter is a fighter when hmmmm...for example, he loses all his speed, power and reflexes, yet manages to STILL be a dominant fighter. Even NOW, Keyword: NOW RJJ has GREAT speed and good power because of his physical attributes...Problem is there is very little skill to go with it, considering how RJJ in his prime was solely dependent on his atletic ability
          skills include everything!

          even taking a punch is a skill.

          you can't just classify skill as defense or technique.



          as far as roy , he was dependent on his physical gifts too much. like ali. only difference is when they got old and lost their speed ali had his granite chin to fall back on. poor roy didn't.

          roy should have retired early. he was already 35-36 when he lost to milk dud.

          he should've retired after the ruiz fight...... and milk dud would still be the NOBODY he is......

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          • El Dominicano
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            #55
            Originally posted by Mr._Pink
            skills include everything!

            even taking a punch is a skill.

            you can't just classify skill as defense or technique.



            as far as roy , he was dependent on his physical gifts too much. like ali. only difference is when they got old and lost their speed ali had his granite chin to fall back on. poor roy didn't.

            roy should have retired early. he was already 35-36 when he lost to milk dud.

            he should've retired after the ruiz fight...... and milk dud would still be the NOBODY he is......
            Yeah but it is nothing to be shamed of. As GREAT as SRL was...dude was shot at 34.

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            • El Dominicano
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              #56
              Originally posted by Mr._Pink
              lmao

              are you a knicks fan? they're looking okay this year...... fun to watch too.

              my lakers are doing aight......wait 'til they get out of their shooting slump...... they just haven't been playing well the first 8 games........
              Can't really say I like a team. I've been hurt too many times before. The Mets have failed me, As a kid I watched Jordan play for the Bulls...I like watching Basketball in general, but when I give my heart to a team and they lose...**** hurts man...**** ****in hurts...atleast in boxing there are rematchs

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              • boxaholic
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                #57
                main word is skilled

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                • WhoreUs
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by El Dominicano
                  Yeah but it is nothing to be shamed of. As GREAT as SRL was...dude was shot at 34.
                  people watch hopkins and remember foreman and they think everyone can fight in their 30's not true.

                  most guys are past it when they get in their early 30's.

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                  • El Dominicano
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                    people watch hopkins and remember foreman and they think everyone can fight in their 30's not true.

                    most guys are past it when they get in their early 30's.
                    Even tough B-Hop performed well against Tito...That was NOT his prime. B-Hop had 15 round type stamina in his prime...A prime B-Hop would have K.O'd Tito...As much as you wouldn't want to hear it lol.

                    Still...RJJ should have NOT been ONLY dependent on his athletic ability if he had plans on fighting for a while

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                    • WhoreUs
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by El Dominicano
                      Even tough B-Hop performed well against Tito...That was NOT his prime. B-Hop had 15 round type stamina in his prime...A prime B-Hop would have K.O'd Tito...As much as you wouldn't want to hear it lol.

                      Still...RJJ should have NOT been ONLY dependent on his athletic ability if he had plans on fighting for a while
                      that cruiserweight hopkins did ko the small welterweight tito......



                      when you're skilled like that hard to develop new skills. roy was fine he just shouldn't have stuck around so long.

                      floyd will have that problem too watch. floyd won't be able to compete at an old age. to be good at an old age i think you need size.

                      bernard is a good size so he was able to compensate for slowing down.

                      roy and floyd fight in divisions way above their natural weight class. (bernard might have stayed at 160 and roy fought mostly at 175 but i think roy is a natural 160-168 guy and bernard is naturally bigger than roy i think)

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