Lennox Lewis Should Rematch Vitali Klitschko, Says Steward

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  • MELLY-MEL...
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    #51
    Originally posted by r i z i
    and andy lee was going to dethrone kelly pavlik.
    lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • D-MiZe
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      #52
      Lewis was overweight and out of shape for his first fight.

      Why would he train to come back?

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      • Mayweather Jr.
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        #53
        Might as well have a Lennox Lewis Mike Tyson rematch if lewis is comeing back

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        • Joeyzagz
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          #54
          Originally posted by knn
          There is.

          Because Wlad Klitschko's record is coming dangerously close to Lennox' record.

          Actually Evan Fields + Vitali + Tua are the only reason why Lennox' record is better. But the win over Vitali was unsatisfying, Tua is nearly forgotten and Evan Fields is not enough to keep Lennox on #1 forever, since Wlad had so much more fights and so much more KOs.
          [QUOTE=knn;5446174]No way.

          Then Lennox would be ALWAYS better than Ali, Foreman, Tyson and basically everyone else.

          QUOTE]


          Both record and competition are important and Lennox is better in both categories when compared to Wladamir. Wlad will never have a better record for the reasons I stated before.

          As far as competition: Will Wlad ever face anyone as good as a prime vitali? Will any of Wlads opponents go on to the hall of fame? Seriously. Wlads best opponent was Sam Peter, and he has just as many losses (3) as Michael Grant and David Tua have now(Opponents Lewis defeated 10 years ago.) Lewis Ko'd Rahman in a much quicker fashion in 2001 than Wlad did in 2008. The accolades of Lewis's opponents are much better than that of Wlad's overall.

          Lewis has no need to come back. His resume' will be hard to top.

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          • knn
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            #55
            Originally posted by Soir
            Both record and competition are important and Lennox is better in both categories when compared to Wladamir. Wlad will never have a better record for the reasons I stated before.
            No, Lennox is better in competition (because of Tua, Evan Fields and Vitali). But not in overall record. He cannot be better because he won only 40 heavyweight fights.

            Let me also add that in the history of boxing there is noone (with 50+ heavyweight fights) who has less unavenged losses than Klitschko, except Valuev, Brian Nielson (no wonder he fought bums mainly), Dempsey (not a real heavyweight) and Marciano (also not a heavyweight).

            Thus NOBODY has a better unavenged loss statistic than Klitschko, except Valuev.

            Sure if you fight only 42 times (like Lennox) and get a gift-rematch (against MCall) then you manage to have 0 unavenged losses. But that's completely irrelevant for the Hall of Fame. Otherwise Ezzard Charles (15 unavenged losses) or Archie Moore (10) or Sugar Ray Robinson (11) could never make it.

            This unavenged business is worthless as a greatness measurement.

            Originally posted by Soir
            As far as competition: Will Wlad ever face anyone as good as a prime vitali?
            The reason why the win against Vitali counts so much is because Vitali won good fights AFTER the Lennox fight.

            In other words: Vitali upgraded Lennox' record by upgrading his own record.

            If for example Tony Thompson continues boxing and adds huge wins to his record then Wlad's record will also be upgraded.

            Originally posted by Soir
            Lewis Ko'd Rahman in a much quicker fashion in 2001 than Wlad did in 2008.
            May I remind you that Lewis was KOed by Rahman? Therefore you need to compare the first fight with the first fight. Thus Klitschko performed far superior to Lewis.

            Originally posted by Soir
            The accolades of Lewis's opponents are much better than that of Wlad's overall.
            Only because of Evan Fields, Tua and Vitali.

            Originally posted by Soir
            Lewis has no need to come back. His resume' will be hard to top.
            Yes, Lewis resume is excellent. But Wlad is still active AND Wlad's opponents are also still active.
            Last edited by knn; 06-08-2009, 08:10 PM.

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            • knn
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              #56
              Originally posted by Demise
              Lewis was overweight and out of shape for his first fight.

              Why would he train to come back?
              million$ of reason$

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