Is Calzaghe the Greatest of All Time?

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  • hammerhiem
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    #281
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    Disagree............Calzaghe is clearly to be placed higher than Erik Morales, and look where you have him. Keep it real.
    Morales has wins over Prime MAB and Prime Pac, that Alone puts him above Calzaghe.

    lets stack them up.

    Morales:

    3 weight World champion.

    WBC/WBO Super Bantumweight with 9 defences.

    WBC Featherweight with 5 defences

    WBC/IBF Super featherweight

    Best wins: Molina, Jnr Jones, McCullough, MAB, In Jin Chi, Pacquiao, Ayala, Jesus Charvez.

    Involved in two of the greatest trilogies of all time with MAB and Pac.

    Was 41-0 when he lost to MAB the first time 47-1 the second time.


    Calzaghe:

    1 weight world champion

    WBO/WBC/WBA/IBF Super Middleweight World champion. 21 defences

    Best wins: Eubank, Kessler, Hopkins, Reid, Lacy, Mitchell, Brewer, Woodhall.

    if you put Calzaghe above Morales based on that, you need to stop posting about boxing because frankly you know nothing about the sport, Period.

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    • Wiley Hyena
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      #282
      Originally posted by hammerhiem
      Morales has wins over Prime MAB and Prime Pac, that Alone puts him above Calzaghe.

      lets stack them up.

      Morales:

      3 weight World champion.

      WBC/WBO Super Bantumweight with 9 defences.

      WBC Featherweight with 5 defences

      WBC/IBF Super featherweight

      Best wins: Molina, Jnr Jones, McCullough, MAB, In Jin Chi, Pacquiao, Ayala, Jesus Charvez.

      Involved in two of the greatest trilogies of all time with MAB and Pac.

      Was 41-0 when he lost to MAB the first time 47-1 the second time.


      Calzaghe:

      1 weight world champion

      WBO/WBC/WBA/IBF Super Middleweight World champion. 21 defences

      Best wins: Eubank, Kessler, Hopkins, Reid, Lacy, Mitchell, Brewer, Woodhall.

      if you put Calzaghe above Morales based on that, you need to stop posting about boxing because frankly you know nothing about the sport, Period.
      So your putting Morales' win over Jr.Jones over Calzaghe's win over Hopkins?? LOL! No way Morales holds more water than Calzaghe. Sorry. Not even close.

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      • hammerhiem
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        #283
        Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
        So your putting Morales' win over Jr.Jones over Calzaghe's win over Hopkins?? LOL! No way Morales holds more water than Calzaghe. Sorry. Not even close.
        I put Beating prime MAB over beating 43 year old hopkins.

        Morales's wins over Pac and MAB are better than anything Calzaghe has.

        Best wins in order

        Morales Vs MAB
        Morales Vs Pac
        Calzaghe Vs Hopkins
        Morales Vs Ayala
        Morales Vs Molina
        Calzaghe Vs Eubank
        Morales Vs jnr Jones
        Calzaghe Vs Kessler
        Morales Vs In Jin Chi
        Calzaghe Vs Lacy
        Morales vs Chavez

        the rest.

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        • Wiley Hyena
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          #284
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          I put Beating prime MAB over beating 43 year old hopkins.

          Morales's wins over Pac and MAB are better than anything Calzaghe has.

          Best wins in order

          Morales Vs MAB
          Morales Vs Pac
          Calzaghe Vs Hopkins
          Morales Vs Ayala
          Morales Vs Molina
          Calzaghe Vs Eubank
          Morales Vs jnr Jones
          Calzaghe Vs Kessler
          Morales Vs In Jin Chi
          Calzaghe Vs Lacy
          Morales vs Chavez

          the rest.
          No way. And Morales didn't ever rule his division, nor did he have a lengthy championship reign. Not to mention that he was beaten several times.

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          • Steak
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            #285
            top ten rated fighters Calzaghe beat:

            Robin Reid #6, (controversial)
            Richie Woodhall #8,
            Charles Brewer #5,
            Byron Mitchell #5,
            Lacy #3,
            Peter Manfredo #10, and of course
            Kessler #2.
            then Hopkins at LHW, Champion status(controversial)

            top ten rated fighters Morales beat:
            Daniel Zaragoza #2
            Junior Jones Top 5
            Wayne McCullogh #4
            Marco Antonio Barrera #2 (controversial)
            Guty Espadas #5
            Jesus Chavez #2
            Carlos Hernandez #3
            Manny Pacquiao Top 3

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            • Wiley Hyena
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              #286
              Originally posted by blackirish137
              top ten rated fighters Calzaghe beat:

              Robin Reid #6, (controversial)
              Richie Woodhall #8,
              Charles Brewer #5,
              Byron Mitchell #5,
              Lacy #3,
              Peter Manfredo #10, and of course
              Kessler #2.
              then Hopkins at LHW, Champion status(controversial)

              top ten rated fighters Morales beat:
              Daniel Zaragoza #2
              Junior Jones Top 5
              Wayne McCullogh #4
              Marco Antonio Barrera #2 (controversial)
              Guty Espadas #5
              Jesus Chavez #2
              Carlos Hernandez #3
              Manny Pacquiao Top 3
              There was nothing controversial about Calzaghe's victory over Hopkins, his domination of Kessler, and his total destruction of Roy Jones Jr.

              That was a hall of fame run...............don't be biased for irrelevant reasons.

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              • Shadows
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                #287
                Why does this thread keep getting bumped?

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by Shadows208
                  Why does this thread keep getting bumped?
                  For ignoramouses like you to express themselves.

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                  • Shadows
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    For ignoramouses like you to express themselves.
                    Well thank you. After all, knowledge is power.

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                    • King Flawless
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                      #290


                      At this thread

                      Let me debunk the Eubank win

                      Eubank was past his prime when Calzaghe got to him. He was 4-2 when he fought Calzaghe. Eubank took the fight at short notice. He was planning to fight at 175. Just to make 168, Eubank entered a 2 week weight draining regime just to make weight. He never won a fight again. Eubank wasn't even a good win.

                      Same thing applies to RJJ. Tarver and Johnson disposed of RJJ better than Calzaghe could. Hopkins win is debatable

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