I think Marg will edge him. The name power of Hopkins and Jones does trump Cintron and Cotto. Problem is Joe don't get much cred for either since the Hopkins fight was dull and disputed, and people will view Roy as too old to mean as much as it should. Marg took back to back KO's in excitin title fights. Some cats might give Darchinyan more cred for his 2 title winnin KO's than Joe will get for his big wins.
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How did Calzaghe have a better year than Margarito?
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Neither had a better year than darchinyan and if Manny beats Oscar everyone else is a runner-up...so I'd make Vic the favorite for fighter of the year. two sensational wins against live foes and a third if he doesn't get jobbed to a draw with Gorres.
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imo margs for not only beating but stopping a p4p and the undefeated current top guy in ww being cotto. that was much more of an accomplishment then JC getting the close SD against bhop and beating a shot rjj. margs should get it fosho, or manny jshould get it if he beats dlh. and imo vic should get it over jc as well, he accomplished more this year then jc 100%.Last edited by -Boxzilla-; 11-15-2008, 03:10 PM.
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Originally posted by sylvestersweet View PostI can't believe that Margarito isn't a lock to win fighter of the year(if Pacquiao loses to Oscar).
Calzaghe fought Hopkins and struggled to win a decision. Then he fought a completely washed up Roy Jones Jr. He couldn't KO either of them.
Margarito won two welterweight titles after knocking out two of the best guys in his division, Cintron and Cotto, the latter who was a P4P top ten.
Margarito was in what may be the fight of the year. Both Calzaghe's fights were lackluster.
The only reason Calzaghe may win FOTY 2008 is because of Jones and Hopkins name recognition. If he had wins over both of these men five years ago he would be a shoe-in. But neither Jones or Hopkins are in their prime and though Hopkins is still good Calzaghe narrowly edged him in a horrible fight.
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Originally posted by mangler View PostI think Marg will edge him. The name power of Hopkins and Jones does trump Cintron and Cotto. Problem is Joe don't get much cred for either since the Hopkins fight was dull and disputed, and people will view Roy as too old to mean as much as it should. Marg took back to back KO's in excitin title fights. Some cats might give Darchinyan more cred for his 2 title winnin KO's than Joe will get for his big wins.
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u guys forget margarito fought 2 champs in their primes, and cotto undefeated streak was the hottest in boxing at the time (cuz mayweather was already nowhere to be found)
calzaghe fought two guys who were way past their prime and still got dropped twice and couldnt manage to convince many people in the hopkins fight
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Originally posted by _Ricky_ View PostCalzaghe MOVED UP in weight, won the Ring title in their own backyards.
Hopkins is better than Cotto
Jones is better than Cintron........Margarito not only beat, but he stopped the IBF and WBA champs in consecutive fights......to really get the meaning. Margarito is the ONLY fighter to beat the fighters he's beaten in his last 2 fights. Both by stoppage.
Bernard has been out pointed before.......and Roy has lost a UD before. Joe did NOTHING better than JT against B-Hop....and Joe didn't do that much better than Tarver did against Roy.......but who else can say they've stopped Cotto or Cintron?
Margarito is the 2009 FOTY
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Originally posted by MacChamp View PostMargarito fight of the year? For what beating Cotto and Cintron? I think Cintron sucks period, and Cotto is the only thing big he seriously did this year. Cinton sucks so much that Nduo who is coming up in weight might actually pull an upset.
Cal did beat 2 legends but one fight was close/controversial and blew out another one. He was also down on both fights, and both went to decision.
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Originally posted by toluco View Postu guys forget margarito fought 2 champs in their primes, and cotto undefeated streak was the hottest in boxing at the time (cuz mayweather was already nowhere to be found)
calzaghe fought two guys who were way past their prime and still got dropped twice and couldnt manage to convince many people in the hopkins fight
As to Cal-Hopkins, couldn't convince many people? Almost no one on any boards anywhere had Hopkins winning until after it came out that about half the ringside press tabbed Hopkins. That fight's about 60/40 on the argument and only relevant because the 40 ***** and the 60 don't have anything to ***** about.
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