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  • #31
    Originally posted by El Dominicano View Post
    Mira, but to say he is scared wouldn't make sense at all. Mayweather didn't get Hatton/ Cotto at 140 when he wanted them. He couldn't get the SSM fight because Shane had a tooth ache...dude wanted to skip 140 to face a prime DLH...So I wouldn't say he was scared, keep in mind Arum threw that 8mill offer as soon as Mayweather left him. That right there should be taken into consideration and dammit! I thought the DLH vs Mayweather fight was entertaining but hey

    By the way, still playing COD 4?
    I used to be a Floyd fan until he ****ed up. Mother****er said it lovely on 24/7 with De La Hoya. "I have all the money, so why am I fighting? Its for the love of the sport"

    That's it bro.. Right there is bull****. You want to be the best, then you fight the best, and Floyd lacks that.. A real challenge...

    Boxing needs more Cotto's and Tonys. Enough said.


    Yea I play it here and there.. i got to many games and school and ****.. I mostly play Resistance 2, COD4 and COD 5 now.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by savorduhfalvor View Post
      I already tried answering one of your posts with a legitimate answer and got no response. I'll try again.

      I agree that Cotto is still somewhat of a question mark. Because now that he's lost, we need to see how he rebounds and that will tell us a lot about him. There are adjustments that a champion makes that Cotto has yet to make. Adjustments that have plagued him his entire career, yet because of his natural talent only recently got really exposed. He needs to show he has the mental part of the game down. People say he's a smart fighter, I don't see it. He constantly gets lured into brawls, and he has been susceptible to uppercuts and both straight and overhand rights his ENTIRE career, smart fighters recognize that and make the adjustments. He still has ways to go, but the talent is there, and he's much more polished than the majority of Welterweights. He can still have a great career, a career better than Vargas who he gets compared to on here so much.

      In response to your vacant title argument, I don't see what the problem is. First of all, most of that's Arum and you know that. Second of all, he's just capitalizing on opportunities. For the current example...what would you have preferred him to do coming off of the Margarito loss? He happened to be ranked #1 by a sanctioning body, and got offered a shot at a vacant belt. Who wouldn't take that? If he didn't have this opportunity, he would probably be fighting Kermit Cintron, who is the same person Margo came back from after his loss to PWill. Why didn't Cotto fight Williams for the belt instead of letting Williams vacate it first? Well, again it probably wasn't Cotto's call, but that would be a horrible decision. Let him get his ring bearings back before he gets right back in the ring with a top 2 Welterweight. He would have been more than happy to fight Floyd, but Floyd felt it was a high risk-low reward fight so he didn't want it(I'm a Floyd fan btw). He beat Mosley, who at the time was still considered very formidable. Judah at the time he beat him wasn't quite as washed up as he is now, and was coming off what many saw as a pretty good showing against Floyd.

      You're dissecting his resume, when in reality you can do that to any fighter. The vacant title argument holds very little water as most of those occured when he was a young fighter and Arum was hesitant with him. The Quintana one was because he was fighting WW for the first time. And by the by, Quintana is a hell of a fighter.

      I've done my best to get into a reasonable discussion about this, but I really think your too harsh on Cotto. Some of your arguments are definitely valid, but there are many where your clearly nitpicking as well.
      Horus?????

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      • #33
        Why does Horus hate Cotto so much? Since Floyd is gone, his usual Cotto bashing has increased.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stuntin View Post
          you don't get what I'm saying. I don't give a crap about Floyd's one fight at 154. Now read my post again.

          by the way, Cotto would get killed at middleweight fer sure
          Cotto is ****ing short. Middleweights are huge bro. If he was taller I bet he would've done so.

          For christsake Mosley looked big next to Cotto.

          Floyd would get killed at Welterweight. Does it make a diffrence?

          We will never know, because both Cotto and Tony pose a threat to Mayweather. Ask Castillo.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by savorduhfalvor View Post
            Horus?????
            I answered everyone of his ****** ass copy & paste questions and he never answered back. It has many of the same questions in one of his last posts, I am convinced he has no life.

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            • #36
              Yo Horus, I have been saying this for YEARS!!

              Too many Cotto NutHuggers here to look at the facts, and be unbiased about it.

              I agree 100%. But no one else seems to, because they arethinking with their hearts instead of their heads.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by savorduhfalvor View Post
                I already tried answering one of your posts with a legitimate answer and got no response. I'll try again.

                I agree that Cotto is still somewhat of a question mark. Because now that he's lost, we need to see how he rebounds and that will tell us a lot about him. There are adjustments that a champion makes that Cotto has yet to make. Adjustments that have plagued him his entire career, yet because of his natural talent only recently got really exposed. He needs to show he has the mental part of the game down. People say he's a smart fighter, I don't see it. He constantly gets lured into brawls, and he has been susceptible to uppercuts and both straight and overhand rights his ENTIRE career, smart fighters recognize that and make the adjustments. He still has ways to go, but the talent is there, and he's much more polished than the majority of Welterweights. He can still have a great career, a career better than Vargas who he gets compared to on here so much.

                In response to your vacant title argument, I don't see what the problem is. First of all, most of that's Arum and you know that. Second of all, he's just capitalizing on opportunities. For the current example...what would you have preferred him to do coming off of the Margarito loss? He happened to be ranked #1 by a sanctioning body, and got offered a shot at a vacant belt. Who wouldn't take that? If he didn't have this opportunity, he would probably be fighting Kermit Cintron, who is the same person Margo came back from after his loss to PWill. Why didn't Cotto fight Williams for the belt instead of letting Williams vacate it first? Well, again it probably wasn't Cotto's call, but that would be a horrible decision. Let him get his ring bearings back before he gets right back in the ring with a top 2 Welterweight. He would have been more than happy to fight Floyd, but Floyd felt it was a high risk-low reward fight so he didn't want it(I'm a Floyd fan btw). He beat Mosley, who at the time was still considered very formidable. Judah at the time he beat him wasn't quite as washed up as he is now, and was coming off what many saw as a pretty good showing against Floyd.

                You're dissecting his resume, when in reality you can do that to any fighter. The vacant title argument holds very little water as most of those occured when he was a young fighter and Arum was hesitant with him. The Quintana one was because he was fighting WW for the first time. And by the by, Quintana is a hell of a fighter.

                I've done my best to get into a reasonable discussion about this, but I really think your too harsh on Cotto. Some of your arguments are definitely valid, but there are many where your clearly nitpicking as well.
                Thank you for your Response:

                This is my Problem with Cotto, and it is a huge Problem.

                Cotto to me is a *****, for letting his career be handled in a way it has been handle. TO ME HE DOESNT DARE TO BE GREAT.

                COTTO FOUGHT GOMEZ TO WARM UP FOR MARGARITO
                AND MARGARITO FOUGHT CINTRON TO WARM UP FOR COTTO...!!!
                YOU DONT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT..!!!

                BOB ARUM KEEP SETTING COTTO UP FOR FAILURE.


                AND NOW, Cotto is fighting another Gomez type fighter to warm up for Margarito again. WTF!!!

                COTTO NEVER TAKES RISK!!!!!
                AND TO ME HE DOESNT DARE TO BE GREAT.


                and I Have a huge problem with that.

                People want to compare Cotto to Mayweather or any other great fighter.

                but if Mayweather would of ever lost to Margarito i guarantee you Floyd would of rematch him the right next fight, no warm up.

                Example: People say just because the first Castillo fight was floyd toughest
                fight to that point that he lost. So what did Floyd do...???

                He rematch him THE NEXT FIGHT, and Proved that the first fight was an admiration, so much so , when asked if he wanted to fight Floyd again Castillo said "No"

                When Mosely lost to Vernon Forrest, he rematch him the right next fight, no warm up

                When Roy WON A CLOSE DECISION to Tarver He rematch him the right next fight, no warm up.


                Because thats what great fighters do. THEY DARE TO BE GREAT..!!!!




                And it ALSO troubles that he has the same flaws he had in the beginning of his career.

                COTTO has serious flaws

                He still gets hit a lot, and wastes a lot of punches. Sometimes he punches from too far out and leaves gaps where he can be countered or beaten to the punch.


                COTTO IS A HUGE -->>>> ???????
                Last edited by Horus; 11-14-2008, 07:21 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Undefeated View Post
                  I used to be a Floyd fan until he ****ed up. Mother****er said it lovely on 24/7 with De La Hoya. "I have all the money, so why am I fighting? Its for the love of the sport"

                  That's it bro.. Right there is bull****. You want to be the best, then you fight the best, and Floyd lacks that.. A real challenge...

                  Boxing needs more Cotto's and Tonys. Enough said.


                  Yea I play it here and there.. i got to many games and school and ****.. I mostly play Resistance 2, COD4 and COD 5 now.
                  Jesus Chavez
                  Diego Corrales
                  Genaro Hernandez
                  Carlos Hernandez

                  He beat them all at such a young age... His resume at 130 respected. Then in his first fight at 135 he faces JLC in a fight I believe could have gone either way. I'm upset the Mayweather vs Casa fight didn't happen but atleast Floyd beat the man that beat Chico/ Casa. At 140 the Kosta fight didnd't land reason being because Kosta was ALWAYS in and out the sport. His resume at 147 may not be so great but as a whole you gotta respect him.

                  I agree we do need more Cotto's I'm really not likeing Margarito to be honest, dude is acting like a BIG SHOT...Fcker is not even that high on the P4P list...atleast Cotto was willing to take on anyone, altough I dislike that fact that everyone acts like Paul Williams doesn't exsist.

                  By the way, I might get COD 5...altough I hear alot of bad **** about it.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Undefeated View Post
                    Cotto is ****ing short. Middleweights are huge bro. If he was taller I bet he would've done so.

                    For christsake Mosley looked big next to Cotto.

                    We will never know, because both Cotto and Tony pose a threat to Mayweather. Ask Castillo.
                    it ain't about height, homeslice. it ain't about height. Floyd's better p4p and you better recognize and own up to that simple fact.

                    Castillo only did well in the first fight because of Floyd's seperated shoulder. It was a freak thing. Castillo didn't fare so well in the second fight, now did he?

                    Floyd would get killed at welterweight? He's already beaten some excellent welterweights and he'd at least make it to decisions against Cotto and Marg.
                    Last edited by FloydsEra; 11-14-2008, 07:21 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Joshua Clottey View Post
                      I answered everyone of his ****** ass copy & paste questions and he never answered back. It has many of the same questions in one of his last posts, I am convinced he has no life.
                      where did you answer my question...??

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