Paul Williams, Goossen Respond To Margarito-Mosley

[Mr. Fantastic]

he's done nothing worthy of mentioning besides beating the so called man of the 147 division.....lol. Do you hear yourself? I dont care if he had nothing but 1 win. The fact is, when you look at their records, PW has 1 loss. And that loss was avenged. Margarito has 5. NONE of those were avenged. And in Margarito's loss column, there is PWs name. And in PWs win column, there is Margarito's name. Nothign says anything about slapping, running, or Margarito starting late. It will simply say he LOST.

If you look at alot of sports/boxing websites. You see the P4P rankings? Who is higher, PW or Margs?? Who is ranked number 1 at Welter??

[HandSpeed303]

he's done nothing worthy of mentioning besides beating the so called man of the 147 division.....lol. Do you hear yourself? I dont care if he had nothing but 1 win. The fact is, when you look at their records, PW has 1 loss. And that loss was avenged. Margarito has 5. NONE of those were avenged. And in Margarito's loss column, there is PWs name. And in PWs win column, there is Margarito's name. Nothign says anything about slapping, running, or Margarito starting late. It will simply say he LOST.

oh and also, margo was not number1 at the time pw beat him. you do know that right? floyd was. so the point you LOL at, makes no since.

[BoxingScribe]

No excuses for losing to Quintana?? Last I've heard PW was saying he had an off night and yadda yadda yadda. If you believe sparring rumors then go ahead buddy lol. I've never ever believed not once a sparring rumor unless I see it with my own 2 eyes.

You want to talk about no names....who has PW fought apart from Quintana and Margarito?? Mitchell?? How many of PW's opponents were champions or future HOFs??? Who has atleast defended a title ONCE successfully?? Sign to fight the champion above your weight? Last I've heard the Phillips fight was for an interm belt.

You also have to realize that Margarito prob wants to face PW BUT the promoters are the ones getting in the way of things. You do remember that Arum tried to sue Margarito for fighting Williams right?? Why would he risk that again? Would you?

Please you didn't own ****.

A feeble attempt at defending Fraudgarito. Lets dismiss the rumors. You are right, I didnt see it. Tony denied it happend. So lets say it never did. PW became Margarito's mandatory when he knocked out Walter Mattyse. Margarito waits an entire year and some change before he accepts the fight after successfully petitioning the WBO for a non-title fight, a unification fight with Cotto, THEN a fight with PW which would have been a full 2 years and some change after PW became his mandatory. Williams in turned fought who faced him. Margarito sat back PRAYING for him to lose so he wouldnt have to. It took the WBO threatening to strip him, and Arum lowballing him with the first Cotto offer for him to grow some balls and face him.

And why do Margarito fans say "Who has PW fought besides Margarito and Quintana?" Well isnt fighting and beating Margarito enough when Margarito, his promoter, and his fans are claiming he is the man in the division? How is he the man based on the fact he beat Cotto who beat Quintana, Zab, and squeeked by Mosley? Margarito isnt the man because Cotto wasnt the man. Cotto wasnt the man at 140 (Hatton was) and Floyd was the man at 147. He didnt pass the torch to Cotto by retiring. There is no linear champion at 147 and the only way you get one is by him winning the belts whcih Margarito isnt interested in doing if he is chasing Shane (no belt) and Cotto(no belt).

[BoxingScribe]

so you have done all of this talking just to get to that point? that is a damn shame. really it is.

look, i have never taking away the win for pw. but you come in here with all this hate and bull****, and all you had to say was "he beat margo" and i would have said "ok".....

but you wanna right books and **** just to make that point? i hope you are happy. facts are, you haven't moved me at all. your not telling me anything i don't already know.

I could care less if I moved you. I just get sheer pleasure out of breaking dound DUMB ASS ARGUMENTS. And the arguments Margarito fans are making are the same as those dumb arguments delusional Mayweather fans were making. Margarito is DUCKING Williams to fight past their prime fighters or fighter he has already stopped. I dont EVER have him fighting Clottey or Williams again. PERIOD.

[HandSpeed303]

A feeble attempt at defending Fraudgarito. Lets dismiss the rumors. You are right, I didnt see it. Tony denied it happend. So lets say it never did. PW became Margarito's mandatory when he knocked out Walter Mattyse. Margarito waits an entire year and some change before he accepts the fight after successfully petitioning the WBO for a non-title fight, a unification fight with Cotto, THEN a fight with PW which would have been a full 2 years and some change after PW became his mandatory. Williams in turned fought who faced him. Margarito sat back PRAYING for him to lose so he wouldnt have to. It took the WBO threatening to strip him, and Arum lowballing him with the first Cotto offer for him to grow some balls and face him.

And why do Margarito fans say "Who has PW fought besides Margarito and Quintana?" Well isnt fighting and beating Margarito enough when Margarito, his promoter, and his fans are claiming he is the man in the division? How is he the man based on the fact he beat Cotto who beat Quintana, Zab, and squeeked by Mosley? Margarito isnt the man because Cotto wasnt the man. Cotto wasnt the man at 140 (Hatton was) and Floyd was the man at 147. He didnt pass the torch to Cotto by retiring. There is no linear champion at 147 and the only way you get one is by him winning the belts whcih Margarito isnt interested in doing if he is chasing Shane (no belt) and Cotto(no belt).

and you talk about dumb logic? bro, margo was not the #1 guy at welter when pw beat him. he got that title three fights later. pw lost to CQ, then avenged it. how on earth does that make him number one?

by your logic, the patriots really are the super bowl champs cause they beat the giants first right?

after the margo win, pw has done nothing at welter...get over it.

[HandSpeed303]

I could care less if I moved you. I just get sheer pleasure out of breaking dound DUMB ASS ARGUMENTS. And the arguments Margarito fans are making are the same as those dumb arguments delusional Mayweather fans were making. Margarito is DUCKING Williams to fight past their prime fighters or fighter he has already stopped. I dont EVER have him fighting Clottey or Williams again. PERIOD.

bro you sound like nothing more than a crybaby. you really haven't made any valid point at all.

[BoxingScribe]

oh and also, margo was not number1 at the time pw beat him. you do know that right? floyd was. so the point you LOL at, makes no since.

Cotto was ranked umber 1 based on what? Taking the belt from Quintana? Beating Zab who had no belt? Fighting Mosley to what could have been considered a draw anywhere outside of NYC? What made Cotto number 1? He wasnt even number 1 at 140. So because he beats Quintana, Zab (who has won how many fights out of his last 7?), and squeeked by Mosley?

And it doesnt matter where Margarito was ranked when they fought. Margarito had been the WBO champion for 7 years making him the longest reigning champion in the division. And Margarito LOST and is now ducking him. PERIOD.

[BoxingScribe]

and you talk about dumb logic? bro, margo was not the #1 guy at welter when pw beat him. he got that title three fights later. pw lost to CQ, then avenged it. how on earth does that make him number one?

by your logic, the patriots really are the super bowl champs cause they beat the giants first right?

after the margo win, pw has done nothing at welter...get over it.

and since Margarito lost to PW, he beat Golden Johnson and Miguel Cotto who is tailor made for someone who can fight all of 12 round. Margarito lost to PW. Margarito will be forever remembered as the man who avoids rematches against fighters that beat him....lol

[HandSpeed303]

Cotto was ranked umber 1 based on what? Taking the belt from Quintana? Beating Zab who had no belt? Fighting Mosley to what could have been considered a draw anywhere outside of NYC? What made Cotto number 1? He wasnt even number 1 at 140. So because he beats Quintana, Zab (who has won how many fights out of his last 7?), and squeeked by Mosley?

And it doesnt matter where Margarito was ranked when they fought. Margarito had been the WBO champion for 7 years making him the longest reigning champion in the division. And Margarito LOST and is now ducking him. PERIOD.

the boxing rankings made cotto number 1, not me. i can see that you are obsessed with margo, and the pw fight. you still have not made one valid point.

if your point is pw beat margo, ok we get that. the rest of the stuff your are saying, is nothing more than your feelings. please keep those to yourself.

[BoxingScribe]

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bro you sound like nothing more than a crybaby. you really haven't made any valid point at all.

I haven't made any valid points?

"Who has PW beat besides Margarito and Cinton?"

"Margarito is the man at 147"

"Margarito isnt duckin PW"

"PW needs to get in the back of the line to beat Margarito AGAIN"

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