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  • HandSpeed303
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    #171
    Originally posted by BoxingScribe
    and since Margarito lost to PW, he beat Golden Johnson and Miguel Cotto who is tailor made for someone who can fight all of 12 round. Margarito lost to PW. Margarito will be forever remembered as the man who avoids rematches against fighters that beat him....lol

    don't forget cintron...lol<<<<< why do you write that after everything? you think that makes a point valid, cause you laugh after it?

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      #172
      Originally posted by BoxingScribe
      A feeble attempt at defending Fraudgarito. Lets dismiss the rumors. You are right, I didnt see it. Tony denied it happend. So lets say it never did. PW became Margarito's mandatory when he knocked out Walter Mattyse. Margarito waits an entire year and some change before he accepts the fight after successfully petitioning the WBO for a non-title fight, a unification fight with Cotto, THEN a fight with PW which would have been a full 2 years and some change after PW became his mandatory. Williams in turned fought who faced him. Margarito sat back PRAYING for him to lose so he wouldnt have to. It took the WBO threatening to strip him, and Arum lowballing him with the first Cotto offer for him to grow some balls and face him.

      And why do Margarito fans say "Who has PW fought besides Margarito and Quintana?" Well isnt fighting and beating Margarito enough when Margarito, his promoter, and his fans are claiming he is the man in the division? How is he the man based on the fact he beat Cotto who beat Quintana, Zab, and squeeked by Mosley? Margarito isnt the man because Cotto wasnt the man. Cotto wasnt the man at 140 (Hatton was) and Floyd was the man at 147. He didnt pass the torch to Cotto by retiring. There is no linear champion at 147 and the only way you get one is by him winning the belts whcih Margarito isnt interested in doing if he is chasing Shane (no belt) and Cotto(no belt).

      Don't you think if Margs was afraid, he would of let his belt go and fight Cotto the first time?? So was Margarito praying?? Wow you must really know Margarito in real life. An idiot like you will view Margarito in a negative way always no matter what.

      How was Floyd the man at 147?? By beating Baldomir?? Judah?? lol
      If someone had the claim to being the best at Welter, it was Cotto. You can't blame him for wanting to fight Shane, Margs has always wanted to fight Shane, just like Oscar, Shane is x10 the name than Williams at this point. Reason why he will fight Cotto again....ding ding, more money in his pocket. Yes, even more than what he would make with Williams. You think he would really see those 4 mil if it was really offered to him by Gossen??

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        #173
        Originally posted by HandSpeed303
        the boxing rankings made cotto number 1, not me. i can see that you are obsessed with margo, and the pw fight. you still have not made one valid point.

        if your point is pw beat margo, ok we get that. the rest of the stuff your are saying, is nothing more than your feelings. please keep those to yourself.
        hey, you Margarito fans are the ones who seem asshurt because people are calling him for what he is. PW says he is scared. Mosley is saying he is somewhere pissing in his pants. Hey, seems like there is a chorus building.

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          #174
          Originally posted by BoxingScribe
          :gay:
          I haven't made any valid points?

          "Who has PW beat besides Margarito and Cinton?"

          "Margarito is the man at 147"

          "Margarito isnt duckin PW"

          "PW needs to get in the back of the line to beat Margarito AGAIN"

          :gay:

          now when the hell did i say all that? yeah, you have lost it now.

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            #175
            Originally posted by BoxingScribe
            hey, you Margarito fans are the ones who seem asshurt because people are calling him for what he is. PW says he is scared. Mosley is saying he is somewhere pissing in his pants. Hey, seems like there is a chorus building.

            ok, now i get it. now you need mosley's help. ok.

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              #176
              Originally posted by BoxingScribe
              hey, you Margarito fans are the ones who seem asshurt because people are calling him for what he is. PW says he is scared. Mosley is saying he is somewhere pissing in his pants. Hey, seems like there is a chorus building.

              oh and i'm not mad. just your full of ****, and you know it.

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                #177
                Originally posted by chicano79us
                Don't you think if Margs was afraid, he would of let his belt go and fight Cotto the first time?? So was Margarito praying?? Wow you must really know Margarito in real life. An idiot like you will view Margarito in a negative way always no matter what.

                How was Floyd the man at 147?? By beating Baldomir?? Judah?? lol
                If someone had the claim to being the best at Welter, it was Cotto. You can't blame him for wanting to fight Shane, Margs has always wanted to fight Shane, just like Oscar, Shane is x10 the name than Williams at this point. Reason why he will fight Cotto again....ding ding, more money in his pocket. Yes, even more than what he would make with Williams. You think he would really see those 4 mil if it was really offered to him by Gossen??
                ok, you have really showed your ******ity. Are you arguing that Floyd wasnt the LINEAR champion at 147? Do you need a ****in history lesson? Zab beat Cory, who had all the belts. Baldomir beat Zab, who had all the belts. Floyd beat Baldomir, who beat the last linear champion (Baldomir didnt have all the belts cause he only paid the WBC sanctioning fees when he fought Judah). Therefore, according to the linear history of the 147 division, Floyd was the LAST linear champion. Cotto was ranked number 1 based on what people thought he could do in the division and that turned ou8t WRONG. Margarito beats him thus thrusting him to number 1, but there is STILL at CHAMPION in the same weight class with a recent victory over him so how in the **** does that make him "the man" in the division? GET WHAT WE CALL THE **** OUTTA HERE

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by chicano79us
                  Don't you think if Margs was afraid, he would of let his belt go and fight Cotto the first time?? So was Margarito praying?? Wow you must really know Margarito in real life. An idiot like you will view Margarito in a negative way always no matter what.
                  Margarito did EVERYTHING in his power to avoid PW the first time. Do you have selected memory? When the WBO told Margarito he had till January 1 to sign the contract, or forfeit his title, he petitioned the WBO for a non-title fight, a unification fight with Cotto, THEN face PW. The reason he faced PW had absolutely NOTHING to do with keeping his belt. It had to do with Arum offering him $900k to fight Cotto compared to the $1.6 million he was being offered to fight PW. So get your facts straight.

                  The reason he is somewhere not taking Arums call is because Arum promised him if he passed on the PW fight, his next fight would net him the same $4million Goosen had on the table. Problem is, he isnt only getting a little less than $2 million to face Shane. Those are the facts. Thats from inside information I have from both Goosen/Tutors camp and Top Rank's camp.

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                    #179
                    lets get this over with, cause we can be at this all night.

                    what exactly are you trying to prove? that margo is scared of pw? if so, then ok. i disagree, but you have your opinion.

                    second, that he won't get 4 mill to fight anyone else? so pretty much, margo is scared of pw...right?

                    pw has never ducked a fighter...margo is the king of ducking. right? i disagree, but you have your opinion.

                    if that is what you are trying to prove, just say yes. don't write me a book about it.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by HandSpeed303
                      lets get this over with, cause we can be at this all night.

                      what exactly are you trying to prove? that margo is scared of pw? if so, then ok. i disagree, but you have your opinion.

                      second, that he won't get 4 mill to fight anyone else? so pretty much, margo is scared of pw...right?

                      pw has never ducked a fighter...margo is the king of ducking. right? i disagree, but you have your opinion.

                      if that is what you are trying to prove, just say yes. don't write me a book about it.

                      LOL, he's trolling now so I just said f it and go watch the Barret/Haye fight.

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