Measured Against All Time - Joe Calzaghe

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  • revs1227
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    #41
    what a great article had some interesting points

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    • edgarg
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      #42
      Originally posted by Brandish
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      great post.. calslappy is the biuggest joke in boxing right now, he thinks he can come over here and get a gift against a 43 year old man and a shot roy and proclaim himself as some atg when he hasn't even faced a legitimate active champ at 175"peeleft: tell calslappy to get his ***** ass in the ring with the real 175 champ in dawson
      You two guys talk real nonsense. I'm glad that you are the only ones. Hopkins held, fell to the canvas from faked low blows and spent each 5 minutes grimacing like King Kong,[as if he was hurt], in such a way, that we can be certain that the Academy Award is safe.

      It was a major mark of the second half of the fight just how much Hopkins was dominated. What you guys do't seem to admit, or, maybe even know, is that Calzaghe has a very rare attribute in that, if and when NEEDED, he can turn up the heat, and getting into his special rhythm, runs away with the fight.

      He didn't exactly "run" away with the second half of the Hopkins fight because of Hopkins' spoiling tactics, but he won every or almost every round. He "
      walked" away with it. I scored it 117-111.

      In the "open" moments, [minimum of all in wrestling] his class showed all the way.

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        #43
        Originally posted by crold1
        Wouldn't it be butt licker? Just saying...
        Maybe he has a special way of doing it which puts him in a "one of" class. He should contact the Guinness Book.....

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          #44
          Originally posted by edgarg
          You two guys talk real nonsense. I'm glad that you are the only ones. Hopkins held, fell to the canvas from faked low blows and spent each 5 minutes grimacing like King Kong,[as if he was hurt], in such a way, that we can be certain that the Academy Award is safe.

          It was a major mark of the second half of the fight just how much Hopkins was dominated. What you guys do't seem to admit, or, maybe even know, is that Calzaghe has a very rare attribute in that, if and when NEEDED, he can turn up the heat, and getting into his special rhythm, runs away with the fight.

          He didn't exactly "run" away with the second half of the Hopkins fight because of Hopkins' spoiling tactics, but he won every or almost every round. He "
          walked" away with it. I scored it 117-111.

          In the "open" moments, [minimum of all in wrestling] his class showed all the way.
          I had the same score. Someone was wearing Hopkins down enough to have him flopping on waist slaps.

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          • Kesslerfan#1
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            #45
            Originally posted by Brandish
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            great post.. calslappy is the biuggest joke in boxing right now, he thinks he can come over here and get a gift against a 43 year old man and a shot roy and proclaim himself as some atg when he hasn't even faced a legitimate active champ at 175"peeleft: tell calslappy to get his ***** ass in the ring with the real 175 champ in dawson
            Great post mate...dont listen to these butt "likers" (hehe) who still have their heads in Tyson KO days and dont appreciate hard working ring generals and just want blood and guts. W a n k e r s!!!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Kesslerfan#1
              Great post mate...dont listen to these butt "likers" (hehe) who still have their heads in Tyson KO days and dont appreciate hard working ring generals and just want blood and guts. W a n k e r s!!!
              Those who want "blood" almost certainly get it in a Hopkins fight. I recall one analyst, some years ago, who said, "I wonder does Hopkins have something sharp attached to his head....or else his head comes to a very sharp point".......

              I was very amused at this, since I didn't know much about Hopkins -or his head- then. Nut since I now know him better, it's no longer amusing.........

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              • DuttyAlacrity
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                #47
                Good read...
                I believe Joe is a Good fighter... it's hard for me to consider him a great fighter.
                He is however the best super middleweight champ of all time and 21 defenses is not an easy feat so i guess that would make him an ATG, but stacked against the ATG's of the past I don't see a comparison. As far as the best boxer of the decade.. no chance... that's between RJJ, Manny, and PBF

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by F•R•K•O
                  Bull****. Total BS.
                  You sound a little hurt sweetheart. You know if you disagree with me it' cool, but please do yourself a favor and stop with your ****** remarks. Do you really want to get into a trash talking match with me? Stick to boxing man and if you disagree with me back it up with something constructive. You know like facts. I'm tired of all these bitches that get all sentimental when they disagree with something. If you disagree cool, but follow it up with something besides garbage. Again I enjoy a little trash talk but back it up with something fool. Another fool crossed off my list that does not merit a response. This is my last post directed to you so enjoy it.

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                  • crold1
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DuttyAlacrity
                    Good read...
                    I believe Joe is a Good fighter... it's hard for me to consider him a great fighter.
                    He is however the best super middleweight champ of all time and 21 defenses is not an easy feat so i guess that would make him an ATG, but stacked against the ATG's of the past I don't see a comparison. As far as the best boxer of the decade.. no chance... that's between RJJ, Manny, and PBF
                    RJ doesn't really rate for this decade. The 90s he had his case, but I always felt the Ring groups rating of Whitaker over Jones made more sense than the BWWA's selection of Jones. Either way, that was the 90s race.

                    Calzaghe has fighter of this decade? Probably not, but it depends on what, if anything, he does in the last two years of this decade. A win over Dawson would further him. Right now, I'd rate it Manny, Floyd, Hopkins, and Cal though if Kessler can take and win some big fights that win could get much bigger.

                    Now, the point I make and the one that seals it for Joe in my mind is what he got done at 68. Fact is, he'll be in arguments about best ever there as long as the class exists. That matters, because it will exist for years to come. He doesn't have to be greater than any of the handful of fighters in front of him in his time to still be great. It's not mutually exclusive.

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                    • crold1
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                      #50
                      Will he stay retired now becomes the only question left.

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