Unless you shed blood in a fight, there will be bad blood afterwards.

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  • K-Nan
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    #1

    Unless you shed blood in a fight, there will be bad blood afterwards.

    I sort of started thinking about this a lot more when I considered the beef between Joe Calzaghe and Bernard Hopkins. I believe that it stems from the fact that the fight was a frustrating one for both guys, who weren't allowed to shine. It was ugly and it was close- but it wasn't exactly an edge of your seat kind of affair. I thought about that fight, and then about other feuds in boxing with similar settings. For instance: Bernard Hopkins losing to Roy sparked a decade long feud between the two. Probably the best example of this in boxing is from Leonard-Hagler. I guaruntee that in all of these circumstances, there wouldn't have been any feuding if the fights had featured the fighters digging deep and having to really brawl. When a guy brings something special out of you, it really has to be hard to resent him or even be bitter about the outcome. Joes Luis Castillo said it best about his first fight with Corrales: you're just happy to be apart of history.

    If you ever noticed the fighters who once fought eachother and grow to have great friendships, its usually the case when there was a great, action packed fight between the two. It doesn't matter if it was close or not: it usually leads to them being respectful of one another and actually getting alone. Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn genuinely disliked eachother before they fought. But there was a noticeable measure of respect between the two after their fights, and today they are friends. Mickey Ward was in Arturo Gatti's corner for his last fight. The acceptions that I can find to this theory (where the hated eachother even MORE afterwards) is in the whole Morales-Barerra saga, Ali-Frazier (for their young lives), and Robinson-Lamotta (to some extent). I'm sure there are others, but more than not this proves true.

    Thoughts? You guys agree that it takes a tough, brutal fight for two guys to truly like eachother?
  • K-Nan
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    #2
    Oh, come on guys!

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    • TheGreatA
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      #3
      Basilio hated Robinson and still does although they had two great fights.

      I'm sure a lot of it was because Basilio was never given a third fight though, the first two were close split decisions.

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      • Lord13
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        #4
        Read it all, disagree.
        I think what brings fighters together most of all is their conduct towards each other, after the fight. That way, they can connect through talking and not fighting.
        Why do you think Ali/Frazier always hated each-other?! They always had clashing personalities and both were stuck up on each other like two little ******s. But they still had brutal fights with one another.

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        • TheGreatA
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          #5
          Originally posted by Lord13
          Read it all, disagree.
          I think what brings fighters together most of all is their conduct towards each other, after the fight. That way, they can connect through talking and not fighting.
          Why do you think Ali/Frazier always hated each-other?! They always had clashing personalities and both were stuck up on each other like two little ******s. But they still had brutal fights with one another.
          They didn't always hate each other.

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          • Lord13
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            #6
            Originally posted by TheManchine
            They didn't always hate each other.
            Yes they did.
            Ali and Frazier always had a grudge and still do...
            It's like Israel and *********, it'll never be over.

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            • K-Nan
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              #7
              Originally posted by TheManchine
              They didn't always hate each other.
              Joe gave Ali a ride after his boxing hiatus... And then proceeded to taunt and diss him after getting out of the car to be greeted by the press.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #8
                Originally posted by Lord13
                Yes they did.
                Ali and Frazier always had a grudge and still do...
                It's like Israel and *********, it'll never be over.
                Frazier helped out Ali when Ali was banned from boxing.



                Anyway, they were always able to respect each other.

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                • Dan...
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                  #9
                  Lord13 telling TheMachine he is wrong about boxing history.

                  Anyone else see how fkd up this is? That almost warrants a permaban right there.

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                  • Clegg
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                    #10
                    Benn and Eubank still hated each other inbetween their two fights...

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