Roy blames cutman for loss!

[!! Shawn]

The first 2 times I rewatched the fight, I just rewatched it to analyze what both of them were doing right and what they were doing wrong, and each and every time I watch it, I see classic signs of a fighter getting old, Jones is an old fighter, maybe not shot but he's old and when a fighter like Jones gets old, he's done. He relied way too much on reflexes and speed, which are normally the first things to go when a fighter gets older and it's very clear that Jones' speed dropped off badly as the fight went on and that his reflexes aren't there anymore, I want to see him retire before he get permanently hurt.

And his legs, while not totally gone aren't fresh, it's a matter of time before his legs are gone as well, it's time to retire for a once great fighter.

There wasn't much slipping from Jones in the fight either, he was doing an alright job of blocking shots with his gloves but even then he was getting hit a lot.

As I told you a few days ago, I'm not trying to take the win away from Calzaghe but it's clear that Jones is past his best, Calzaghe is much closer to his prime than Jones is.

Is Calzaghe better prime for prime? I'm not sure but I don't think so. Is Calzaghe better now? Most definitely.

I agree that Roy has been getting old. The reason I gave him a chance in this fight is because he fought smart and with his hands up against Trinidad.

He made a mistake trying to fight like young Roy tonight. I think he did get taken out of his game plan, and lulled into a false sense of ability because of the first knockdown.

But once again, not being able to pull of the Roy Jones style defense any more does not make Roy shot, or too old to be fighting. When Roy was using traditional head movement, even though that was not to offten, Joe couldn't touch him. That alone was a good measuring stick for what he has left.

When he tried to fight like Roy Jones he got hit, but when he was using more traditional defense he was doing well. I don't think most people noticed that in the 3rd and 4th rounds when Roy was walking down Joe and not hitting him he was taunting him, which was actually a pretty good idea. He let Joe throw, then said "come on!" "hit me" every time.

On the inside he was working a solid uppercut game all night. Nice crisp short shots that are not flashy, but that were getting in consistently.

As for his hands getting slower as the fight went on. Welcome to fatigue. Unlike Joe, Roy has never been a stamina monster of any kind, age didn't help with this at all.

So basically in conclusion, just because Roy can't fight like Roy does not make him shot. Hes reflexes simply diminished below the critical threshold necessary to pull that off. They are still better than most fighters, Bernard included. His hand speed is still quite remarkable. His legs are still great, even though he doesn't have the same stamina he once had. Just look at the double right hand he threw in the closing of the 12th round. You can't do that on shot legs.

[Silencers]

I agree that Roy has been getting old. The reason I gave him a chance in this fight is because he fought smart and with his hands up against Trinidad.

He made a mistake trying to fight like young Roy tonight. I think he did get taken out of his game plan, and lulled into a false sense of ability because of the first knockdown.

But once again, not being able to pull of the Roy Jones style defense any more does not make Roy shot, or too old to be fighting. When Roy was using traditional head movement, even though that was not to offten, Joe couldn't touch him. That alone was a good measuring stick for what he has left.

When he tried to fight like Roy Jones he got hit, but when he was using more traditional defense he was doing well. I don't think most people noticed that in the 3rd and 4th rounds when Roy was walking down Joe and not hitting him he was taunting him, which was actually a pretty good idea. He let Joe throw, then said "come on!" "hit me" every time.

On the inside he was working a solid uppercut game all night. Nice crisp short shots that are not flashy, but that were getting in consistently.

As for his hands getting slower as the fight went on. Welcome to fatigue. Unlike Joe, Roy has never been a stamina monster of any kind, age didn't help with this at all.

So basically in conclusion, just because Roy can't fight like Roy does not make him shot. Hes reflexes simply diminished below the critical threshold necessary to pull that off. They are still better than most fighters, Bernard included. His hand speed is still quite remarkable. His legs are still great, even though he doesn't have the same stamina he once had. Just look at the double right hand he threw in the closing of the 12th round. You can't do that on shot legs.

As I said, I don't think he's shot because once he's shot we'd definitely know it but he's done as a top class fighter, as Hopkins said in his interview, Jones was a fighter that relied so much on speed and reflexes that he didn't bother learning the basics of boxing, now that he's getting older and everything is slowing down, that lack on boxing fundamentals in getting him into trouble.

As I said, once a fighter like Jones gets old, he's done, retire while he has his faculties, no need to fight on and get hurt which is the road he seems to be taking now. I've seen way too many fighters fight on too long and get hurt.

[Madvillain]

Doesn't surprise me, Roy's worst enemy has always been his own ego. Hope he puts serious thought into just leaving his legacy alone.

[Wyson]

wow, i cant believe roy said that.....after the fight he admitted he fought a better fighter and now he's blaming his cut man?

[matty_mop]

How can he blame his cutman he was tired anyway just getting tagged off some silly shots then he got the cut, his cut man tried but everytime he stopped it bleeding Joe just ended out hitting it again and making it bleed. So he cant blame him, he would of lost anyway joe has too high of a work rate for jones to cope with.

[Mickey Gomez]

haha You gotta love Roy, he's such a trier.

[El Chicano]

Doesn't surprise me, Roy's worst enemy has always been his own ego. Hope he puts serious thought into just leaving his legacy alone.

He don't know when to quit, just like Holyfield, just like Tyson, just like so many other great fighters throughout the history of the sport. Hope it's just one more for him, the fight with B-Hop, then they can both call it quits.