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  • #21
    what round did he get cut?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by robjr View Post
      what round did he get cut?
      7th........

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Silencers View Post
        7th........
        Watch the fight again yet?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
          Watch the fight again yet?
          3 times, haven't changed my opinion that Jones is done.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Silencers View Post
            3 times, haven't changed my opinion that Jones is done.
            Its become more and more apparent to me that Joe was simply the better fighter. Jones was also doing much much better in the rounds before the cut than after it.

            He appeared to be ramping up the activity levels. The round he was cut was actually one of his best rounds before the cut.

            The timing and combinations that he did throw did not scream of a shot fighter.

            You need to stop looking for Roy Jones and just watch the fight like its any other fighter in there.

            He fought very well. He was putting punches together well. He was finding his target well, his hand speed was excellent. I think he ran out of steam in the 10th round. In the later rounds he seemed to burn himself out in the first part of the round, then took the rest of the round off.

            Even looking at it from a career standpoint the probability of him being "shot" is next to none.

            fighters become "shot" from incurring excessive amounts of brain damage. Roy made a career out of being untouchable. He basically has 20 or so fights worth of wear and tear on his brain.

            Most of the problems I see in Jones come from the natural aging process. His reflexes slowed down a bit, but not hugely. His hand speed is a touch slower, but again, not buy a huge margin. Hes stamina is not the same. He does not show the signs of a shot fighter.

            He still has bounce in his legs, he can still slip punches, and he can still put punches together.

            As hard as it is to believe. I think the answer might be that GASP Joe Calzaghe is better than Roy Jones.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Silencers View Post
              3 times, haven't changed my opinion that Jones is done.
              Lol, the fight is 5 days old!

              Why in god's name have you watched it three times already?!?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
                Lol, the fight is 5 days old!

                Why in god's name have you watched it three times already?!?
                Ive watched it 5 times. Once a day.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                  Its become more and more apparent to me that Joe was simply the better fighter. Jones was also doing much much better in the rounds before the cut than after it.

                  He appeared to be ramping up the activity levels. The round he was cut was actually one of his best rounds before the cut.

                  The timing and combinations that he did throw did not scream of a shot fighter.

                  You need to stop looking for Roy Jones and just watch the fight like its any other fighter in there.

                  He fought very well. He was putting punches together well. He was finding his target well, his hand speed was excellent. I think he ran out of steam in the 10th round. In the later rounds he seemed to burn himself out in the first part of the round, then took the rest of the round off.

                  Even looking at it from a career standpoint the probability of him being "shot" is next to none.

                  fighters become "shot" from incurring excessive amounts of brain damage. Roy made a career out of being untouchable. He basically has 20 or so fights worth of wear and tear on his brain.

                  Most of the problems I see in Jones come from the natural aging process. His reflexes slowed down a bit, but not hugely. His hand speed is a touch slower, but again, not buy a huge margin. Hes stamina is not the same. He does not show the signs of a shot fighter.

                  He still has bounce in his legs, he can still slip punches, and he can still put punches together.

                  As hard as it is to believe. I think the answer might be that GASP Joe Calzaghe is better than Roy Jones.
                  The first 2 times I rewatched the fight, I just rewatched it to analyze what both of them were doing right and what they were doing wrong, and each and every time I watch it, I see classic signs of a fighter getting old, Jones is an old fighter, maybe not shot but he's old and when a fighter like Jones gets old, he's done. He relied way too much on reflexes and speed, which are normally the first things to go when a fighter gets older and it's very clear that Jones' speed dropped off badly as the fight went on and that his reflexes aren't there anymore, I want to see him retire before he get permanently hurt.

                  And his legs, while not totally gone aren't fresh, it's a matter of time before his legs are gone as well, it's time to retire for a once great fighter.

                  There wasn't much slipping from Jones in the fight either, he was doing an alright job of blocking shots with his gloves but even then he was getting hit a lot.

                  As I told you a few days ago, I'm not trying to take the win away from Calzaghe but it's clear that Jones is past his best, Calzaghe is much closer to his prime than Jones is.

                  Is Calzaghe better prime for prime? I'm not sure but I don't think so. Is Calzaghe better now? Most definitely.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
                    Lol, the fight is 5 days old!

                    Why in god's name have you watched it three times already?!?
                    Just to analyze what they were doing, and to see if Shawn was right in what he told me a few days ago, but I just don't see it. And I like to watch these fights when it's fresh in my mind before another big fight comes up for me to watch.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by larryx View Post
                      wtf...anyone surprised calzaghe roy 2 in wales..this was preplanned
                      Joe would lose all kinds of cred if he fights Roy again in Wales.

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