Roy is saying he could have won, if wasn't for the cut...

[Kris Silver]

yup thats the site.

I hope Joe won't entertain the idea. Listen like I said, I'm a Roy fan through and through. But his days fighting elite fighters are over. I don't want to see Roy get permanently hurt. I really really don't want to see that...

If he carries on with this talk, I can see as many big names speaking out at Joe to retire, as for Jones if not way more. This could turn into a big thing in the press over the coming months. I hope Joe and Hops keep to their words and don't fight him again. Who does he fight and how well does it go down, not well for anyone. Would Johnson take it? He's desperate and called Jones out in 07. Doesn't bare thinking about.

[THE REED]

Am not having a dig at you ree****yaluss mate but Vaseline does jack **** to stop a cut from bleeding. All the other fighter has to do is jab at the cut and the Vaseline is gone and you're bleeding again.

Carry on.

i do disagree... i think vaseline DEFINITELY helps to coagulate a cut in between rounds... i understand that when u get hit again it can start bleeding again... but surely that doesnt mean u dont do it just because...

a lot of the damage from roys eye (swelling at least) was from roys own gloves hitting him with his guard up... he had the same issue in tarver I... he said his own gloves were hitting him when tarver had him on the ropes

[TheGreatA]

If he carries on with this talk, I can see as many big names speaking out at Joe to retire, as for Jones if not way more. This could turn into a big thing in the press over the coming months. I hope Joe and Hops keep to their words and don't fight him again. Who does he fight and how well does it go down, not well for anyone. Would Johnson take it? He's desperate and called Jones out in 07. Doesn't bare thinking about.

Johnson would definitely take it although he called Roy shot in his last interview (after the Calzaghe fight).

He doesn't have much faith in Dawson giving him a rematch.

[Bhopreign]

i do disagree... i think vaseline DEFINITELY helps to coagulate a cut in between rounds... i understand that when u get hit again it can start bleeding again... but surely that doesnt mean u dont do it just because...

a lot of the damage from roys eye (swelling at least) was from roys own gloves hitting him with his guard up... he had the same issue in tarver I... he said his own gloves were hitting him when tarver had him on the ropes

Lol swelling from his own gloves, you truely are a Jones fan to the death. HBO showed when the actual cut happened, must be hard to digest man.

[MELLY-MEL...]

come on roy you gotta move on brother. it's time.

[PoetryInMotion]

not really.. this was a huge fight. and his cutman did in fact fucck up... really bad... no vaseline no nothing...

Yes I agree he ****ed up bad, at one point I even thought Roys corner was trying to make the doctor stop the fight because I didnt see them doing much to the cut. With that said, He had only won one round decisively and maybe one more that could have gone either way before the cut, and I think we all could see what direction the fight was headed before the cut even happened you could see what fighter was slowing down. It's just I figured Roy would put the responsibility for losing the fight a little more on himself instead of pointing fingers. This is denial, borderline delusional

[THE REED]

Lol swelling from his own gloves, you truely are a Jones fan to the death. HBO showed when the actual cut happened, must be hard to digest man.

thats why i said swelling next to it... i know the cut was from a punch and from the swelling.. im also not saying joes fists didnt have a lot to do with it... but part of it WAS roys gloves hitting himself... u can watch it happen in the fight... it happened in tarver I, u can watch it there as well

[Bhopreign]

thats why i said swelling next to it... i know the cut was from a punch and from the swelling.. im also not saying joes fists didnt have a lot to do with it... but part of it WAS roys gloves hitting himself... u can watch it happen in the fight... it happened in tarver I, u can watch it there as well

If so then who's fault is it, Roy's own fault. Also there is no excuse to not let your hands go when Calzaghe is standing in front with his hands down. Thats called shot pretty much, same thing that Evander does at this stage.

[THE REED]

If so then who's fault is it, Roy's own fault. Also there is no excuse to not let your hands go when Calzaghe is standing in front with his hands down. Thats called shot pretty much, same thing that Evander does at this stage.

dude im not disagreeing with u lol or defending roy, or making up excuses as to why he lost... i merely said, some of the swelling was do to his own gloves hitting himself...

[Bhopreign]

dude im not disagreeing with u lol or defending roy, or making up excuses as to why he lost... i merely said, some of the swelling was do to his own gloves hitting himself...

Ok, youre probably right, I never looked for that sort of thing, I dont doubt thats what happened. I dont hate on Roy, wish he would have won.