do people understand what atg means??

[larryx]

everytime a modern fighter wins a fight they say"man they gotta be to 20 atg"??????????do you understand how many great fighters there have been???? you cant just win a fight a jump ahead of 50 other great fighters who've had numerous ring wars..its not about being undefeated..**** steve ottke retired undefeated is he a atg???

[Dan...]

Comparing Calzaghe to Ottke is beyond harsh dude.

Having said that I agree that any notion of Joe being a top 20 ATG is laughable. I would place him around the top 60 though.

[AztecWanker]

agreed. i would place joe top 100.....maybe

[.Mik.]

People need to understand that to be an all time great, you dont need to have had to do all your boxing over 30 years ago.

[larryx]

Comparing Calzaghe to Ottke is beyond harsh dude.

Having said that I agree that any notion of Joe being a top 20 ATG is laughable. I would place him around the top 60 though.

this is not just about joe..mayweather aint no damn top 20 atg either

[larryx]

People need to understand that to be an all time great, you dont need to have had to do all your boxing over 30 years ago.

what??????????the point is a modern fighter cant jump to top 20 atg cause you havent seen the millions of other boxers fight

[Testdead]

Jones, Calzaghe, Mayweather, Hopkins are all ATG`s.

[Brandish]

calzaghe is not an atg..and has done nothing in his career to warrant that distinction

[larryx]

Jones, Calzaghe, Mayweather, Hopkins are all ATG`s.

not saying they arnt but be calculated where you rank them..none of them are top 20

[larryx]

calzaghe is not an atg..and has done nothing in his career to warrant that distinction

i think he is a great fighter..but top 20-50 atg is ridiculous..maybe top 100