How Come Fighters Like...

[rizkybizness]

lol. valuev is a ****ing monster.

Physically he is but he certainly doesnt punch like it

[larryx]

lol. valuev is a ****ing monster.

i bet hopkins could beat valuev..lol he couldnt hurt hopkins

[Benny Leonard]

One: Genetics. Everybody has different genes. Some have Great genes, other good, others average, and the rest, eh, God hates you.

Two: The way you lead your life. Everything you eat, every event that you go through...is it happy, sad/stressful, etc. The harder you live, the faster you age and decline.

Hormone levels and balance are very important. Not everybody has the same level of hormone levels. Some have high, medium and low.


There was a quote by Angelo Dundee I once read a while back: It said something like: Tyson is the oldest 25 years old {somewhere around there} I ever saw.

His point was simple: At 25, Tyson had lived a harder life than anyone he had encountered...so at 25, Tyson was basically at retirement age Mentally and Physically. When other Men/Athletes should have just begun their prime years, Tyson was finished.


Look at Gatti, or Billy Conn, Joe Louis after the War, Ali after exile (and he was young), etc.


Everybody ages different. This is proven by Science. Each body part can have a different age as well.

[BlackHat]

Also, why does such a huge behemoth of a man in Valuev punch like such a little *****?

damn! makes me wonder too!

[Truth]

Physically he is but he certainly doesnt punch like it

thats funny to me. he looks like if he tapped you on the shoulder you'd go into a coma. lol

[Fulcrum29]

first of all you have to understand that most fighters today have been getting wear and tear on their bodies since their early teens. Most of them like Roy Jones started boxing at like age 5. Years of amateurs and sparring and training throughout their teen years then olympics then going pro at 18 or 20 etc so by the time they're 25 or 30 they have already a life long of wear and tear on their body. Hopkins on the other hand didn't get serious about boxing til prison and didn't start turning pro and all that til he was in his mid 20's, so at 30 his body was equivalent to someone like Jones at 20.
Furthermore look at the life style that people like Hopkins and Calzaghe live? They are famously not only gym **** but don't smoke or drink alcohol (or very sparingly at most) whereas alot of the other guys you mention party hard and blow up in weight in between fights and things of that nature, all that takes a gradual toll on your body.
Thirdly as for Hopkins he was never a fighter that relied on either sheer power or sheer speed or reflex or anything that diminishes with age, he was always a fighter that relied on the only thing that IMPROVES with age, and that's INTELLECT. He's a philosopher inside that ring and he knows the ins and outs of the game whereas someone liek Jones relies purely on instinctual reflexes.
Calzaghe on the other hand lives in a tiny welsh home, probably eats all organic and non processed foods never blows up and eats junk or smokes or drinks, doesn't live the big city party life style, his body is perfect and never has been poisoned and abused over years like most of these american party animals. Furthermore, 36 is not exactly that old for a guy that 1. never took huge damage in the ring and never been in ring wars and 2. the vast amount of punches he throws is due to the fact that for the most part he throws pitty patty or arm punches. I'm not saying that as an insult but it's just the truth and this truth stems from the fact that he further never abused his body by lifting huge amounts of weights (and possibly steroids) like Roy Jones. Furthermore Roy would have lasted far longer if he didn't destroy his body by going up in weight to heavyweight then coming back down like that, that utterly ruined his body and took at the least 5 years off of it.
Look at their build, Roy has giant bulky arms with huge bicepts and calzaghe's are lean and thin and that's why he's able to throw continuous flurries without tiring out his muscles and throw 1000 punches per round whereas Roy's arms are huge and will get tired if he throws more than 40 punches per round, so his 'build' is indicative of being good for only power shots, which is the only thign he really does anymore.

[rizkybizness]

thats funny to me. he looks like if he tapped you on the shoulder you'd go into a coma. lol

You would think he'd send his wife into a state of comatose with each thrust of his huge pelvis

[.Mik.]

One: Genetics. Everybody has different genes. Some have Great genes, other good, others average, and the rest, eh, God hates you.

Two: The way you lead your life. Everything you eat, every event that you go through...is it happy, sad/stressful, etc. The harder you live, the faster you age and decline.

Hormone levels and balance are very important. Not everybody has the same level of hormone levels. Some have high, medium and low.


There was a quote by Angelo Dundee I once read a while back: It said something like: Tyson is the oldest 25 years old {somewhere around there} I ever saw.

His point was simple: At 25, Tyson had lived a harder life than anyone he had encountered...so at 25, Tyson was basically at retirement age Mentally and Physically. When other Men/Athletes should have just begun their prime years, Tyson was finished.


Look at Gatti, or Billy Conn, Joe Louis after the War, Ali after exile (and he was young), etc.


Everybody ages different. This is proven by Science. Each body part can have a different age as well.

This, along with lifestyle is the truth.

What is not the truth is when people say ****** things like "Roy relies on his reflexes in fighting, Calzaghe relies on his speed and stamina, these things dont go as quickly as reflexes". Speed and stamina are two of the first things to go, power being last...yet look at how it went from Joe quickly. This is not the reason why Joe is able to keep fighting at the highest level at 36 and RJJ or others werent able to.