Roy Jones Jr. Deserves Credit

[Shadow boxer 3]

Roy is overrated and Joe exposed him.

****** post

[daggum]

I don't think I've ever seen anything as sad in boxing as the Glengoffe KO.

The Tarver one was bad enough, but when he smacked his head on the canvas a 2nd time and wouldn't get up... Man, you just wanna hug the guy or something.



Superman forever.

and calzaghe(known for being a murderous puncher) couldn't even hurt roy. this tells us roy was in his prime(or better)

also the punch calzaghe got knocked down with would have ko'd 99 percent of all heavyweights with headgear on!

[PittyPat]

and calzaghe(known for being a murderous puncher) couldn't even hurt roy. this tells us roy was in his prime(or better)

also the punch calzaghe got knocked down with would have ko'd 99 percent of all heavyweights with headgear on!

Being a Calzaghe fan myself, I won't bother with the whole "Joe sucks"/"Joe rules"/"nuthuggers!" thing. But I do like Roy, and even Glen too - I just found it sad that Roy was so shot as to not be able to do anything after that single punch/forearm combo. Had he not scored the KD, I would've given every single round to Joe.

[Joe's left hook]

he hasn't been knocked out yet so he has a granite chin? or maybe its the fact hes facing old dudes who can only punch one punch at a time. if they werent old and let their hands go he would be out of there and these old guys arent even known for being power punchers to begin with. not to mention byron mitchell and kabary salem(you kidding me) had him on ***** street. SAD.

So, Calzaghe has only ever fought old guys?

In his decade of being a World Champion?

Do you seriously believe that?

[PittyPat]

And to think Eubank was "old" when he faced Joe. He was 31 ffs! That's still a spring chicken.

[IMDAZED]

And to think Eubank was "old" when he faced Joe. He was 31 ffs! That's still a spring chicken.

Age has nothing to do with how much you have left in the tank, particularly in boxing. Fernando Vargas was done in his mid-20's. Likewise, Eubank's career was all but over when he met Calzaghe.

[BattlingNelson]

and calzaghe(known for being a murderous puncher) couldn't even hurt roy. this tells us roy was in his prime(or better)

also the punch calzaghe got knocked down with would have ko'd 99 percent of all heavyweights with headgear on!

I was finally beginning to slightly enjoy the (attempt at) humor in Daggums posts and then he takes one st8DpwntH3PIp3

[Korega]

hardmanbrit may have talked some rubbish on this subject, but I feel I have to back him up right now.

Errr..... we are also talking about 1980s Britain here as well!

Argentina is a vast land with massive amounts of natural resources and it is a nation that had a huge amount of French military technology at its disposal when it attacked British land in the eighties. Are you suggesting that Great Britain was so great militarily then that it was inconceivable that Argentina might beat us in the Falkland's War?

By the way, I know that hundreds of years ago we did some truly terrible things, but don't forget that we were also the first nation on Earth to abolish slavery. Our navy actually fought and killed many hundreds of slave traders around the nineteenth century!

Don't forget also that we delivered railway systems and education systems to places such as the Indian subcontinent and Africa, and how many tens thousands of vital things have we invented as a nation, from the telephone to the tank?

I know Britain has done some terrible things for this Earth, but show me a nation that hasn't and I will show you a liar.

Britishfightfan...First and foremost, i appreciate your honesty, but i rather you quote the whole post, than select out of context. In that post, you would see that i sang high praises of England. Here is the post again:

"The Falkland wars! Get serious, that was not a war...if i was you, i wouldn;t boast about that..we're talking about 1980s Argentina here. compared to Great Britain....that wasn't even a war...it was a conflict....However, i do appreciate your honesty by admitting your limited capabilities, both economically and militarily. Don;t get me wrong, England has come a long way...a long way more than any nation on earth...and that's a fact, you can look upon her actions in the late 19th, 20th and this century, It's a nation that should be proud of its moral standing in modern society. But that still doesn't erase its sodded history. British Petroluem, an instrument of the Crown, ****ed over Persia on such a scale that's comparable, if not worse that slavery. The Crown herself was responsible for numerous conflicts in that region for centuries...i could go on and on...but you already know..and that's just one tiny part of the world that still suffers today, due to prior actions by Brits."

Now to address your points. I'm sure you're fully aware of the differences between a developed, developing, and underdeveloped nations. It's the 1980s. Britain is a fully developed nation....Argentina IS NOT!!!. Having the technologies of other nations does not equate a nation with military might. If that was the case, Saddam would still be in Power, So would Idi Amin, So would Noriega and many others. Argentina was a developing pseudo-3rd world entity. Once again, i repeat...The Falkland wars was not an actual war...It was a conflict. Even your media and the world called it a conflict back then. And Yes, Great Britain was so great, it was inconceivable that most latin nations, or African nations would defeat it back then in a conflict or an actual war....is that broad an umbrella statement for you?. But it's 2009 now...China, India, Brazil, Iran and many others are almost, if not on-par with modernized western nations....That's why there's all these posturing going on....China now feels its entitled, So does India and Iran, and rightly so...but Western nations can no longer simply dismiss them like they would have in the past. You know i speak the truth. Power is in the hands on the beholder. We are the strongest Western nation around, hence all out meddling...England is no relevant in terms of military might...because simply, the times have change...and partly, because you guys inflict self-harming policies on yourselves...probably as a means of showing regret thru actions.
Brits thru actions, are becoming innately considerate, selfless, extremely social, libertarians...to the very people who remember you as quite vicious. We're humans...Emotional creatures, not everybody would be receptive to your new attitudes just because you now enspouse humanitarian ideals. Some will welcome you (of which i'm happy), others want vengeance. Once i can't blame anyone for what they want, i can only hope to understand their point of view for the actions they take...But England is not so dumb, you may lack the ability to stand-alone, but you make alliances to cover you back....hence NATO, U.K, EU, and all kinds of arms and defense treaties with western cousins. You're covered under a very nice insurance. I think that also has something to do with your low standard of living. England needs to evaluate all those self-harming policies you've enacted.

You guys just don't want to admit that you're likely the weakest in all of the high-profile western countries...but you're smart enough to know it. Besides, you got an advantage, you've all mind-**** the whole world by defining virtually every standard of life.

[Korega]

To compare the United States of America to the United Kingdom in that way is ludicrous.

Texas (which is in fact just one of your many states) is far larger than our entire country and your population stands at three hundred million for God's sake!

You are being silly now.

I wouldn't dare make such comparison....that would be extremely lop-sided. THAT IS MY WHOLE POINT!!!...you guys don't compare militarily or economically....in an age where hostilities are brimming on a geographical scale, and racial divide. England is a good nation. I can proudly say that, but she's no saint....like it's inhabitants tend to potray it. No country is, but there's such a thing as scale of culpability, and Britain is WAYYY ON TOP...even above America (and we're sons of bitches..lol) And earlier, you mentioned railways, schools and all kinds of infrastructure in 3rd world nations...lol....no one does anything good without something in return...those railways ship out the resources needed back then for the Empire ( u recall ).....and now such acts are mainly for public display to generate goodwill. so don't even go there, or i'll put India and African into the equation, i'm well-versed on those sagas.

Just admit, your island nation isn't perfect, it has a sodded history. It's militarily weak, and economically, it uses debt owed by 3rd-worlders to keep its currency strong.

[Dan...]

Age has nothing to do with how much you have left in the tank, particularly in boxing. Fernando Vargas was done in his mid-20's. Likewise, Eubank's career was all but over when he met Calzaghe.

Exactly. It is kind of annoying how ppl don't get this. "But he was only 31..". So what, when you are shot you are shot.