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  • #71
    Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
    I said this in another thread and I think it warrants a thread of it's own.

    So what's up with Chad Dawson? Did I fall asleep for 3 years and miss something with this kid? Why all the hype all of a sudden, I know he's undefeated and black, and that goes a long way around here but this **** is ludacris.

    Are we not talking about a guy who just a few months ago looked and acted like a scared little ***** in the ring against Johnson? Narrowly escaping with a **** decision and vowing ot never face Glen again?

    The same Glen Johnson that Bernard Hopkins TKO'd 10 fucking years ago?

    And he's your go to guy now for Calzaghe? Why? Because he beat Tarver?

    Dawson is dog**** and he's an accident waiting to happen, Joe Calzaghe would feast on his corpse, as would the 43 year old Hopkins. I'd favor both Joe and Bernard to outclass this kid en route to lopsided UD victories.
    Wrong..
    Chad Dawson is the truth man..

    And if they ever fought, I'd bet my house on Dawson

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    • #72
      B-Hop can add Kessler and Chad to his resume. B-Hop would have an easy time with those two.

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      • #73
        If Dawson beat Hopkins he deserves Calzaghe.

        The winner to fight Joe, that's the only fight Joe could possibly have. Hopkins would beat Chad pretty convincingly imo, Joe and Bernard simply just have far too much between the ears for Chad.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Queensdawg View Post
          Wrong..
          Chad Dawson is the truth man..

          And if they ever fought, I'd bet my house on Dawson


          You`d lose you house dawg id bet my life on it.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
            Don't get it twisted, I'm a huge Calzaghe critic, but even I know where to draw the line. And I draw the line at Chad Dawson, if Joe lost to this kid I'd cut off my own **** and eat it. That's how confident I am in the fact that Joe would win.
            Well get ready to do so, that's if the fight happens.
            Last edited by Boxingwizard; 11-09-2008, 06:00 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by hookoutofhell View Post
              yes dawson has fought and beat some big names like tarver and johnson, but he barely got through against johnson and he seemed very eager to get it on with tarver, why well i think its because he knew that tarver was a loss waiting to happen and rather than let him lose to anyone why not see if you can go over there and get the W. hopkins chased tarver in a similar way and fighters do this when they know that a certain fighter has a weakness. but like you said fair props to him alot of fighters step up and bottle it - dawson didn't.
              The Johnson fight was only one fight, and now he deserves to be written off when he goes through his first battle test? He is a young fighter and that goes through difference challenges, same with Hopkins did against Mercado and the same way Jones did against Dell Valle. In every other fight he has looked brilliant, and IMO one fight against a top 3 light heavyweight shouldn't do anything to his rep. He fought back like a champion and showed heart, and if he wasn't the real deal then he wouldn't have beat Johnson and made the distance.


              he did however avoid his mandatory, dianconu, in fact he did it twice i remeber reading an article about it and the author wrotes the same thing about how dawson chased the fight with tarver because he felt as though he could get the win.

              plus i think your comments about calz and kess are slightly unfair its alot harder for euro champs to break through in the US market.
              I knew that it was just a matter of time before this was brought up. He did it to fight Tarver, someone that is not only better than Diaconu but more known and he was able to make more money and get more recognition. He stated in many interviews that if Tarver didn't except the fight, then he would have had no problem fighting Diaconu. When people bring this up, they completely forget that Dawson was ready and willing to face Diaconu and the fight was only two weeks to go when Diaconu pullled out with a hand injury, and i really don't understand that ''avoiding'' stuff. There is a rumor that if Diaconu was to beat Branco and Johnson, then he and Dawson should unify.


              yes Dawson has a good style for beating calzaghe but calzaghe imo would exploit dawsons 2 big weaknesses. dawson vs tarver was taking rounds off you cant do that vs joe, his conditiing still needs work. second he is easily backed up, calz would just land a flurry every time he got him on the ropes yes dawson might counter well off the ropes but like i said he his stamina and desire dont measure up to joes and joe would force him to fight at a high tempo, one that would render dawson a sitting duck late in the fight.
              Dawson only took rounds off against Tarver because he wanted to wear him out because he didn't believe that he could keep up with the young guy with the better legs. He showed against Johnson and Adamek that he has excellent stamina and in the Tarver fight, he showed that he can fight 12 rounds consistently because he and Eddie Mustafa are working on his focus. If he wasn't focused against Tarver for the whole fight, then he would have been knocked down or at least hurt, which he wasn't at any point in that fight.

              Also i don't see how you can say that he is easily backed. His game plan was to out box Tarver because Antonio was dangerous and he didn't want to make himself vulnerable to anything crazy the way he did against Johnson. He would approach Calzaghe a completely different way. He would out box him and time him on the way in with big straight counters, offsetting Joe's work rate. After he feels Dawson's power, i doubt he would be consistently volume punching the way he did against Hopkins and Kessler.

              when joe faced kess he was in against a bigger, stronger and younger fighter but that didn't stop him, after round 5 he dominated and i can see joe winning by the sme scores vs dawson that he did vs kess.
              Two completely different fighters and a different weight class. Dawson is 6'3 and a full light heavyweight, and IMO he is more skilled than Kessler and much faster and stronger. Kessler is flat footed and is basic, where as Dawson is much more and a better boxer. How would Calzaghe perform against a highly skilled southpaw? Joe has never fought a good southpaw in the pro's before and Dawson has fought about 7.

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              • #77
                No advantages???? Are you crazy!? Dawson is bigger, stronger, faster, better defensively, just better all around then Calzaghe. I guarentee you that Calzaghe wont stick his chin out like that in front of Dawson with his hands down like he did to Roy, If he's ****** enough to do that he'll be hit with a wicked right uppercut and knocked out.
                Bigger and stronger, sure. Faster and better defensively? Nah.

                Joe has a world class chin? are you ****ting me? Hopkins is far from a puncher and put Calzaghe on his ass and Jones couldnt even stop Felix Trinidad who is way past it and hasnt fought in 3 years yet he put Calzaghe on his ass. Joe is the one that fights 1 style, all he does is rush his opponent and throw slaps give me a break, what did he ever do differently? He couldnt even fight when Jones was backing him up imagine Chad Dawson backing him up.
                Four knockdowns in his entire 46 fight career, all of them but one a flash knockdown and even in the one that wasn't (Mitchell) he was back on his feet and throwing bombs within seconds. Calzaghe has a decent chin.

                Tell me this what exaclty did Calzaghe do around 98 to 2002 to earn a shot, who was his best win at the time Eubank who was weight drained
                You're absolutely right. Calzaghe did NOTHING to get a shot at Hopkins, unlike Robert Allen (twice) and Simon Brown obviously. And he did NOTHING to deserve a shot at Jones. Not like the mighty Otis Grant or Reggie Johnson...

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                • #78
                  If Chad Dawson is prime, undefeated, and more accomplished then Lacy and Kessler why would a Calzaghe win be unappreciated? It would be the toughest challenge in his career since he has skills in his repertoire Lacy and Kessler don't have. Why are ppl that hype Kessler as great win trying to say a Dawson win is a lesser accomplishment? And the ones who think it would be a greater accomplishment say it doesn't matter because it won't be appreciated so theres no point in proving it? Both of these positions are baffling and are not legitimate reasons for not wanting Calzaghe to fight Dawson. Then also suggest he should fight Kessler, Hopkins, or Johnson knowing very well those are not the most significant fights to be made. Hopkins fans are mad someone is being looked at as having a better chance or getting a shot at Joe b4 him. And Joe fans...

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by egreezy View Post
                    If Chad Dawson is prime, undefeated, and more accomplished then Lacy and Kessler why would a Calzaghe win be unappreciated? It would be the toughest challenge in his career since he has skills in his repertoire Lacy and Kessler don't have. Why are ppl that hype Kessler as great win trying to say a Dawson win is a lesser accomplishment? And the ones who think it would be a greater accomplishment say it doesn't matter because it won't be appreciated so theres no point in proving it? Both of these positions are baffling and are not legitimate reasons for not wanting Calzaghe to fight Dawson. Then also suggest he should fight Kessler, Hopkins, or Johnson knowing very well those are not the most significant fights to be made. Hopkins fans are mad someone is being looked at as having a better chance or getting a shot at Joe b4 him. And Joe fans...
                    Dawson was not even mentioned as little as three weeks ago. The guy that Calzaghe had to beat was Pavlik back then. Dawson is the guy that Calzaghe has to beat purely by default. There really is NOONE ELSE. If Calz were to beat Dawson they'd really have to sc**** the barrel.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                      Dawson was not even mentioned as little as three weeks ago. The guy that Calzaghe had to beat was Pavlik back then. Dawson is the guy that Calzaghe has to beat purely by default. There really is NOONE ELSE. If Calz were to beat Dawson they'd really have to sc**** the barrel.
                      not exactly you would like to believe he was only mentioned 3 weeks ago, but myself and others were calling for him to fight calzaghe after dawson/johnson and hopkins/calzaghe. he was always in the conversation but didnt have the hbo hype.

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