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  • #11
    Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
    I give Roy a good chance in this fight and think it could well be a close decision. I've got the utmost respect for Chase, but I think this is a surprisingly wacky prediction I'm afraid.

    There's everything to suggest and back up Calzaghe gets better and wins more rounds versus anyone with his adapting, post R4. Not the other way round as this suggests. He's not that ****** or late to alter his style to avoid trouble and lose rounds.

    A R6 KO is also pretty damn wacky I'm afraid. Joe has been shown to have a very tough chin with solid shots from Eubank, Mitchell, Kessler really phasing him much. Jones would have to land as hard or harder, flush a few more times in succession to logically trouble Joe's chin. Unlikely.
    I totally understand your point of view and can certainly understand how you would think this is a wild prediction. I've thought about this for a while and still cannot see why my prediction cannot happen based on the fighters styles.

    In reference to the Rd. 6 TKO:
    Jones has been pretty fresh and fleet footed up to round 6 in his previous fights and nothing jumps out and tells me that he will all of the sudden get tired in this one, even with Joes workrate. When punches are traded, Joe will realize he will not be able to stand in front of Jones and trade. That would spell dissaster. His workrate will not be that of the other fights Calzaghe fans are used to. This is not a 2004 Jones-Johnson fight like alot of Joe fans seem to think and if it was, I def. think Johnson has way more accumulative power than Joe has and throws straighter punches. This will hurt Joe, style for style , in my opinion. And we shall see, though.

    Thanks alot for the input, however. You know i hold your opinion in a high regaurd.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Chase8400 View Post
      I totally understand your point of view and can certainly understand how you would think this is a wild prediction. I've thought about this for a while and still cannot see why my prediction cannot happen based on the fighters styles.

      In reference to the Rd. 6 TKO:
      Jones has been pretty fresh and fleet footed up to round 6 in his previous fights and nothing jumps out and tells me that he will all of the sudden get tired in this one, even with Joes workrate. When punches are traded, Joe will realize he will not be able to stand in front of Jones and trade. That would spell dissaster. His workrate will not be that of the other fights Calzaghe fans are used to. This is not a 2004 Jones-Johnson fight like alot of Joe fans seem to think and if it was, I def. think Johnson has way more accumulative power than Joe has and throws straighter punches. This will hurt Joe, style for style , in my opinion. And we shall see, though.

      Thanks alot for the input, however. You know i hold your opinion in a high regaurd.
      Cool, likewise man. Now you've said that I slightly see more where your coming from. Roy's a clever guy with a great boxing brain. The prediction you outlined would be a good game plan and ideal turn out for Roy, and play to his strengths, be his best shot. He'd know Calzaghe adapts well and shuts out opponents post round 4. So spending a fair bit of energy early-miday to catch him out wouldn't be a bad idea, as it's shown he can get caught.

      But I don't think Roy's willing to risk spending too much energy early to to mid rounds. He can keep his work rate ok for longer then folk think, but I still think his mind set won't be to go along with such a tactic at such times, let alone it materialising. For one because because I tend to predict the usual pattern for Joe in slight contrast to it. I see Roy winning a few very early rounds, and Joe adjusting well to avoid trouble post R4, so Roy not even being in a position to KO in R6, let alone choosing to, or being lucky enough to on Joe's tough chin. So it seems it's more of an outline of Roy's best shot tactically in some ways, more by design.
      Last edited by Kris Silver; 11-07-2008, 03:30 PM.

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      • #13
        What gave Joe trouble when fighting Bernard? That straight right. What is Roy's punch of choice? =)

        I can't wait man... can't wait.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
          Cool, likewise man. Now you've said that I slightly see more where your coming from. Roy's a clever guy with a great boxing brain. The prediction you outlined would be a good game plan and ideal turn out for Roy, and play to his strengths, be his best shot. He'd know Calzaghe adapts well and shuts out opponents post round 4. So spending a fair bit of energy early-miday to catch him out wouldn't be a bad idea, as it's shown he can get caught.

          But I don't think Roy's willing to risk spending too much energy early to to mid rounds. He can keep his work rate ok for longer then folk think, but I still think his mind set won't be to go along with such a tactic at such times, let alone it materialising. For one because because I tend to predict the usual pattern for Joe in slight contrast to it. I see Roy winning a few very early rounds, and Joe adjusting well to avoid trouble post R4, so Roy not even being in a position to KO in R6, let alone choosing to, or being lucky enough to on Joe's tough chin. So it seems it's more of an outline of Roy's best shot tactically in some ways, more by design.
          Outstanding! Great response, like usual.
          This is why I love boxing. Alot of people don't know the drama involved at this high level. These styles could come together and make a fight for the ages like Vasquez-Marquez or one could completely blow the other away like Pavlik-Hopkins.

          Either way, I love the best fighting the best and boxing is back in a big, huge, monsterous way!

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          • #15
            Good analysis! I'm not sure that Jones will win by KO, although that's what I would like to see!

            ESPN readers seem to agree with you, though!! With over 10,000 votes, ESPN readers have:

            RJJ by KO - 31%!
            RJJ by UD - 28%
            JC by KO - 17%
            JC by UD - 17%
            and
            Draw - 7%

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Uchi Deshi View Post
              Good analysis! I'm not sure that Jones will win by KO, although that's what I would like to see!

              ESPN readers seem to agree with you, though!! With over 10,000 votes, ESPN readers have:

              RJJ by KO - 31%!
              RJJ by UD - 28%
              JC by KO - 17%
              JC by UD - 17%
              and
              Draw - 7%
              I did'nt know that, thanks for the ESPN info! Go Roy!

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              • #17
                hmmm well thought out prediction


                im leaning towards a close decision either way, joe is overrated and a prime jones kills him but this im not sure if this roy is able to counter that workrate effectively enough to win

                roy needs to use that turtle shell guard and stand in close to joe IMO, joe needs leverage for his winging and wide shots, standing close will nullify that

                he needs to nail joe with short range right hands and left hooks over the top, as well as with plenty of body shots to wear him down

                at the start of rounds or after clinches when the two fighters are moving straight at each other, roy needs to leap in and catch joe with that right hand, especially if joe is moving in behind a flurry

                if roy does all that, i think he can eke out a close, close decision.... joes workrate will mean that the scores will be kept close

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                • #18
                  I think Joe will win a comftrouble UD, But not before hitting the canvas. Joe is a slow starter so Roys chances are better in the first half of the fight.

                  Rounds
                  1-RJJ 10-9
                  2-RJJ 10-8 (Joe Gets hit flush with a right uppercut While off Balanced)
                  3-JC 10-9
                  4-RJJ 10-9
                  5-JC 10-9
                  6-JC 10-9
                  7-JC 10-9
                  8-JC 10-9
                  9-RJJ 10-9
                  10-JC 10-8 (Calzaghe gives Roy A beatig, but doesnt get a KD)
                  11-Draw 9-9 (joe Kd Roy, but Gets a beating in return from Roy, Roys heart shows up)
                  12-JC 10-9

                  At the end I have Joe Beating Roy win a UD 114-111. But thats just my opinion, It could end up with Roy winning the desicion.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                    I think Joe will win a comftrouble UD, But not before hitting the canvas. Joe is a slow starter so Roys chances are better in the first half of the fight.

                    Rounds
                    1-RJJ 10-9
                    2-RJJ 10-8 (Joe Gets hit flush with a right uppercut While off Balanced)
                    3-JC 10-9
                    4-RJJ 10-9
                    5-JC 10-9
                    6-JC 10-9
                    7-JC 10-9
                    8-JC 10-9
                    9-RJJ 10-9
                    10-JC 10-8 (Calzaghe gives Roy A beatig, but doesnt get a KD)
                    11-Draw 9-9 (joe Kd Roy, but Gets a beating in return from Roy, Roys heart shows up)
                    12-JC 10-9

                    At the end I have Joe Beating Roy win a UD 114-111. But thats just my opinion, It could end up with Roy winning the desicion.
                    Well said, thanks very much for the response.

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                    • #20
                      If There is a Jones KO in the Fight I totally agree with your Prediction and the way it will Happen!

                      However, i think it will most like go the full 12


                      Roy wins a couple of the first rounds, perhaps a KD, Calzaghe steps it up and wins couple mid rounds, then Roy pulls out late in the fight and wins rds 10-12


                      RJJ 115-112

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