David Tua vs. Shane Cameron Falls Apart, Talks are Off

[Silencers]

Tua really needs to get back into the ring, if not his career is pretty much over.

[marc8989]

Tua really needs to get back into the ring, if not his career is pretty much over.

Nawwwww His career is pretty much over now....because he is being to greedy..a fight fell through with Chris Arreola, now this one...David Tua is done...he should just retire seriously...He's just hurting his career more and more...

[Silencers]

Nawwwww His career is pretty much over now....because he is being to greedy..a fight fell through with Chris Arreola, now this one...David Tua is done...he should just retire seriously...He's just hurting his career more and more...

He still has a chance with the heavyweight division the way it is now but I agree, he needs to stop thinking about the big bucks right now because he's not in a position to be commanding those big paydays.

[Boxing Scene]

I want to see David Tua vs Audley Harrison.

Devastating, aggressive, 6'6 southpaw would lay Tua out.

You're a joke if you really believe this.

[edgarg]

That's a fine sentiment and I don't disagree but if you have 20k in the bank, do you work at McDonalds or not work and hold out.

It's an awesome idea in theory. It's just that it's not a realistic sentiment for someone who's been near the top.

Funny how the offer wasn't even mentioned. (aside)

I meant Cameron. As for Tua, in every fight I've seen, he's been like a tiger for the first 2 rounds or so, and if the opponent survives, he then settles into the David Tua we know so well. Still, he has, as you say, been near the top, and fought for the big prize, and is still a big name, replete with unfulfilled promises of Titles.

As for the sentiment which you so kindly appreciate, it's all relative. $20,000 to you may be nothing, or quite a bit, and to me nothing or quite a bit. But as I haven't seen $20,000 mentioned anywhere, since the proposed terms haven't been published we'll have to remain in the dark. I mentioned $30,000 merely in an example.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is, that Tua has been out of the limelight for a long time, and, as someone else earlier wrote, he needs to get into action, to fight, since his career needs to be revived. As of now, he really has none, therefore my original premise should apply. If he intends to continue as a fighter, he has to settle for whatever he can get and WIN. The money will come.

George Foreman did the same, and he'd been the World Champ.

[edgarg]

That's a fine sentiment and I don't disagree but if you have 20k in the bank, do you work at McDonalds or not work and hold out.

It's an awesome idea in theory. It's just that it's not a realistic sentiment for someone who's been near the top.

Funny how the offer wasn't even mentioned. (aside)

The postulation was not just an idea, is has been proven, many times. In the past I sent in a letter as an example, loosely as follows.

My main hobby for many years has been music, and there have been times when I actually supported myself and a family from this ability. I organized a New Orleans style jazz band. All the guys were accomplished amateurs, although just swing players. Well, swing had "flown out of the windows" for years already, and these guys were doing nothing. So I had to train them, which took about 2 years; we'd practice weekly just for the fun of it. We began to get jobs, and even played just for the publicity. It was a pasttime for us we didn't need the money, but the guys liked money anyway.

Eventually we began to get quite a bit of work, mainly well paying, but from time to time it would be about half our normal fee {which fluctuated according to what I could squeeze from the promoters or wedding groups etc}

The guys got so overstuffed with local praise and good fees that when a low pay job was offered {and I KNEW there was no more money to be had from it} they wouldn't want to play. I'd say, that it's better to play for $40 or $50 ( as the case may have been) than sit at home for an imaginary $75 or $100.

It took a while, but they eventually saw what I was getting at, the first being the clarinet who was a practicing clinical psychologist. (his wife was a psychiatrist so HE certainly didn't need the money). The others were all working long-time school teachers.

Eventually, even though, in imitation of us, there arose about another 5-6 groups, for about 10 years and within, say a 60 mile radius, we played probably 90% of all music jobs requiiring a jazzy, hot band, and got all sorts of interesting and very often well paying work, even being the lead-in band for many visiting top International stars whose names you'd all recognise. And when I took an occasional low pay job, there was never a copplaint.

We'd reached our goal of being the top group...local of course. Fighters starting out, basically do the same, and Tua, although not exactly starting out, is in a similiar situation, with the advantasge that his name and past reputation is still worth something. Just how much is a subject for negotiation. Of course the opponent and venue are important intrinsic factors.

I don't know if this will be printed since it isn't actually about boxing, except peripherally.

[mrlopez]

I presume that by "Nightmare" you mean Samuel Peter. I've seen David Tua in many of his fights, even before he was a big name and I tell you that a 25-6 years old Tua would tear Samuel to shreds and dance on the remains.

At the same time, you well know that Tua has been having huge managerial problems which dragged through the courts for years and years, and not only must he be well in his mid 30's but well out of shape. So why the hell should you expect him to suddenly look to fight a guy heavier and bigger in every way, who's vfit and has been fighting regularly. That is very unsportmanlike and unfair. Tua really has to start his career over again, nearly 20 years after he bagan it.

Nah **** Peter, I'm talkin bout Arreola....