Arthur Abraham's nationality: Armenian or German

[WhoreUs]

you talk too big Melly Mel. prove to me and everyone that I'm an ALT and I'll have my IP banned for good. if however, you cannot backup your claims and I prove im new here and not an ALT. you must leave for good. sound good? if not then stfu

you guys are going off topic.

stick to the topic of the thread.

we're trying to decide whether abraham is german or soviet here!

[-MAKAVELLI-]

you don't see barrera or morales changing their names to mark barnes or eric moore.

LMFAO!!!!!!!


John Manny Marks

[MELLY-MEL...]

you talk too big Melly Mel. prove to me and everyone that I'm an ALT and I'll have my IP banned for good. if however, you cannot backup your claims and I prove im new here and not an ALT. you must leave for good. sound good? if not then stfu

i also find it very amusingthat everytime i reply to a poster one of you nuthuggers has to start this type of ****, but your not the same douchebag? ok, good job ******!

[Garo]

I do know my geography thank you.

Well as I said since he has dual citizenship he can choose for himself cant he? I dont understand his arguments for becoming a german citizen tho. Why would the poor living conditions in Armenia have anything to do with his choice of citizenship? Did he have to be a german citizen to live in Germany?

Anyway I can definetely understand his feelings.

This is simple, you're making it complicated.

Armenia doesn't have anything to do with his choice of citizenship. I am say he moved to Germany because of living conditions in Armenia. Naturally, when you stay in a country for a certain period of time, you can become a citizen to have full rights in that country. Abraham was offered a German passport, and he took it. I live in America, I am an American citizen, but I consider myself Armenian. Get it?

And I never said he had to be a German citizen to live in Germany. Please read my posts carefully.

Mr._Pink:

he has german citizenship.

Yes, and he has Armenian citizenship as well.

he fights in germany.

Most of his fights were in Germany, but he doesn't fight in Germany alone.

he lives in germany.

Good job stating the obvious.

he changed his armenian name to arthur abraham.

He said in an interview that Arthur Abraham was his "ring name", not his "German" name.

he's german.

No, he's Armenian.

if you want to say he's armenian because of where he was born...... he was born in the U.S.S.R.

USSR is not a nationality. USSR was a union of soviet countries. He was born in Armenia which was part of USSR. That's like saying someone is not German, they are European, because Germany is a part of Europe. They are both German, and European, but German would be my example's nationality.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Please do. oh god, please have him check whoever he is. you are gone, my friend. this forum should be better without you ruining every single thread.

38 post, and here since july, but i ruin all threads? again thanks for the self ownage. fyi, learn to read jerkoff. i go no where except in your head as usual. you can't stand me! i love it.

[WhoreUs]

ur right but the us accepted morales and barrera as mexicans
my friend lives in germany and says the armenians turkish and other races there are very despised so abraham has to change his name so people would forget the fact he is armenian and buy a ticket to see him

i guess......

but if america hated mexican people you think barrera and morales would change their names?

they fought in america because of the money. they still represent mexico , they still kept their mexican names and they still live in mexico.

[Lefthookjelly]

i also find it very amusingthat everytime i reply to a poster one of you nuthuggers has to start this type of ****, but your not the same douchebag? ok, good job ******!

i answered another person who quoted me and you jumped in..im the ****** one? nice..

[WhoreUs]

USSR is not a nationality. USSR was a union of soviet countries. He was born in Armenia which was part of USSR. That's like saying someone is not German, they are European, because Germany is a part of Europe. They are both German, and European, but German would be my example's nationality.

soviet was a nationality. not anymore because the u.s.s.r. doesn't exist anymore.

nationality is your country.

at the time of arthur's birth , he was a soviet citizen.

armenia was part of the soviet union 'til the early 90's.

when did he move to germany?

one could argue he lived in the soviet union or germany longer than armenia.

[toluco]

i guess......

but if america hated mexican people you think barrera and morales would change their names?

they fought in america because of the money. they still represent mexico , they still kept their mexican names and they still live in mexico.

no they wouldnt they are too proud
but look at felix sturm and probably other fighters of germany maybe its not such a big deal to change ur name
as u said he was born in soviet russia he has no sense of nationalism because thats something u get as a child and his parents were probably soviets

[The Gully Gad]

All i know is my armenian brothers on here says the dude is Armenian
So im sticking with that