Who Has Paul Williams Beat Considered So Highly?

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  • Derranged
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    #11
    Originally posted by mt102879
    I like Williams but the fact that he had no answers for 12 rounds against a 'B' level fighter leaves me wondering about him. Unfortunately he's only fought a couple rounds since so it's hard to judge if he's actually made improvement.
    Quintana is a B level fighter? And he started to come back and made the fight very close imo..

    Anyway, Williams is a good fighter, lets see what happens with him.

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    • TheManchine
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      #12
      Originally posted by egreezy
      Paul Williams is nowhere near as popular as Floyd and will never be. He is getting fans because of his wins, not his race. And is considered highly because of his talent and potential, not the hard to figure out.
      i never said he was as popular as Floyd, i said alot of Floyd fans have jumped on the Williams badwagon now Floyd is gone,

      his wins? who the **** has beat? 2 fighters, the rest not so much

      he beats Andy Kolle and now he can clean out Middleweight and Super Middleweight division

      he is the new black hope
      Last edited by TheManchine; 11-03-2008, 06:31 PM.

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      • βetamax
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        #13
        Yes, I would say 'B'. 'A' IMO is reserved for the elite P4P fighters.

        Maybe I need to watch the fight again but I remember it being pretty one-sided.

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        • Dan...
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          #14
          I agree HH. He had a good win over Margarito but his reputation right now, especially on these boards, far exceeds his accomplishments to date. He still needs to put more quality wins on the board to convine me. Splitting two fights with Quintana just ain't going to get the job done for me.

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          • T-97
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            #15
            What you mean? Andy Kolle is an ATG...

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            • TheManchine
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              #16
              Originally posted by T-97
              What you mean? Andy Kolle is an ATG...
              Kolle was ****ing scared in the locker room

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              • egreezy
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                #17
                Originally posted by hungryherbert
                i never said he was as popular as Floyd, i said alot of Floyd fans have jumped on the Williams badwagon now Floyd is gone,

                his wins? who the **** has beat? 2 fighters, the rest not so much

                he beats Andy Kolle and now he can be clean Middleweight and Super Middleweight division

                he is the new black hope
                Maybe some Floyd fans I would not say that many. Are trying to say he cannot win a title above 154? If he fought Denis Inkin tomorrow I would bet on Paul Williams. Great black hope? I don't see what you're getting at.

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                • Eaner0919
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                  #18
                  IDK I mean damn why can't people think of him highly right now without necessarily using his resume to do so? He has good wins over Margartio and Quintana and his lone loss he avenged something fierce. Heck no one really even talks about him in terms of p4p yet.

                  some people think highly of fighters for the skills they actually bring into the ring and IMO there isn't any shame in that. I don't think any of his fans are claim he has beaten all of the best but will say he has a style and skillset that would give just about every fighter from 147 to 160 some issues.

                  I dont need a resume to tell me PWill is good and could be even better. I don't need a resume to tell me he is one of the best at 147, could easily be one of the best at 154, and as time progresses could be a very good 160lb fighter

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Eaner0919
                    IDK I mean damn why can't people think of him highly right now without necessarily using his resume to do so? He has good wins over Margartio and Quintana and his lone loss he avenged something fierce. Heck no one really even talks about him in terms of p4p yet.

                    some people think highly of fighters for the skills they actually bring into the ring and IMO there isn't any shame in that. I don't think any of his fans are claim he has beaten all of the best but will say he has a style and skillset that would give just about every fighter from 147 to 160 some issues.

                    I dont need a resume to tell me PWill is good and could be even better. I don't need a resume to tell me he is one of the best at 147, could easily be one of the best at 154, and as time progresses could be a very good 160lb fighter
                    I agree. His obvious physical advantages and punch output are legitimate factors to consider when speaking about Williams. He will be a handful for anyone at Welterweight and Jr. Middleweight.

                    I think it is very premature to regard him highly against top Middleweights however. The folk who think he'd give Kelly Pavlik hell make me scratch my head.

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                    • Eaner0919
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                      #20
                      yeah thats why I mentioned as time progresses he could because he would have to actually commit to being 160 and not play around with that weight.

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