Who Has Paul Williams Beat Considered So Highly?

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  • joseph5620
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    #31
    [QUOTE=Pelon Psyclone;4274712][B][COLOR="Purple"]Thats the part that makes it questionable.

    Margarito was a "bum" by many before he faced Williams.


    No credible boxing fan considered Margarito a "bum" before his fight with Williams. You're lying again.

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    • TheManchine
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      #32
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      he beat margarito who is in the p4p top 10 list. I disagree with your opinion about margarito's improvements. he still starts slow, goes to the body, and finishes strong. obviously marg will blow out non-elite fighters.

      you can make the same argument against margarito... who has he beaten. and the only name worth mentioning is cotto, who wasn't even in the p4p top 10 on many lists at the time and got on the list by defeating mosley, who was not in the p4p top 10, in a close fight.

      so if you **** on williams, basically you're ****ting on margarito and cotto.
      no Cotto has beaten good fighters

      Mosley,Judah, Quintana etc

      at 140 he also beat good fighters who went on to become champions Torres,Mallignaggi amongst

      Margarito has fought alot good fighters

      Santos, Lewis, Cintron, Cotto, Martinez, Clottey etc

      Williams has not faced as many good fighters as either of them in my opinion

      in the future i hope to see him fight some good quality opponents

      Originally posted by joseph5620
      Not all of Williams fans are black and you have no room to talk when your buddy Tunney ALWAYS picks or favors the white fighter.
      no not all are black

      alot of Floyd fans have jumped on the bandwagon

      i dont if Tunney does that

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      • KJB
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        #33
        Originally posted by Eaner0919
        IDK I mean damn why can't people think of him highly right now without necessarily using his resume to do so? He has good wins over Margartio and Quintana and his lone loss he avenged something fierce. Heck no one really even talks about him in terms of p4p yet.

        some people think highly of fighters for the skills they actually bring into the ring and IMO there isn't any shame in that. I don't think any of his fans are claim he has beaten all of the best but will say he has a style and skillset that would give just about every fighter from 147 to 160 some issues.

        I dont need a resume to tell me PWill is good and could be even better. I don't need a resume to tell me he is one of the best at 147, could easily be one of the best at 154, and as time progresses could be a very good 160lb fighter
        I am with you on this one. I am not exactly a Williams fan boy, but I have high hopes for his future. The thing about Williams is that the potential is there for an AMAZING career. He seems to have both the ability and balls to step up to anybody, if he doesnt underestimate anyone from now on and gets the right fights, his career could be an awesome story.
        So yeah, I think its more attitude and potential than resume to date.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #34
          Originally posted by hungryherbert
          no Cotto has beaten good fighters

          Mosley,Judah, Quintana etc

          at 140 he also beat good fighters who went on to become champions Torres,Mallignaggi amongst
          Let's be honest here... cotto was riding a lot of hype as the next tito. he beat a few decent fighter but his best win was Mosley. None of those other guys are HOF bound expect Mosley.

          Margarito has fought alot good fighters

          Santos, Lewis, Cintron, Cotto, Martinez, Clottey etc
          Margarito on the other hand had absolutely no hype at all in contrast and had to steal cotto's hype to be considered good. all his competition is also competant, but his biggest win still is Cotto.

          Williams has not faced as many good fighters as either of them in my opinion

          in the future i hope to see him fight some good quality opponents
          same thing with williams. he's riding alot of hype cause he gets play from HBO AND he stole Marg's mojo. margarito is his best win.

          in conclusion: cotto, margarito, williams, all their resume is based on 1 big win each respectively. you can take ****, compare it with other ****, but at the end of the day it's still ****.

          NOW, if cotto, margarito and williams and mosley (and I'll throw clottey in there just for good measure) fight a round robin (with rematches and all) we can actually get somewhere.

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            #35
            I think his height makes people give him a lot of chance against the big names, Even thoguh he hasnt been any major names he has too many advantages over them in terms of how he stand and fight.

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            • PoetryInMotion
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              #36
              I think he's a good fighter, but he still has alot to prove....ALOT.

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              • Vasyl’s dad
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                #37
                [QUOTE=joseph5620;4276900]
                Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
                [B][COLOR="Purple"]Thats the part that makes it questionable.

                Margarito was a "bum" by many before he faced Williams.


                No credible boxing fan considered Margarito a "bum" before his fight with Williams. You're lying again.
                See threads via 2006.

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                • Chuckguy
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mt102879
                  I like Williams but the fact that he had no answers for 12 rounds against a 'B' level fighter leaves me wondering about him. Unfortunately he's only fought a couple rounds since so it's hard to judge if he's actually made improvement.
                  Is that the kid who died of cancer who B-hop was a paul bearer to?
                  If so how did you get it
                  good pic

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                  • Chuckguy
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
                    Thats the part that makes it questionable.

                    Margarito was a "bum" by many before he faced Williams.


                    Soon as Paul has a win over Tony, suddenly the Tornado is a credible opponent for anyone.
                    I think you have it mixed up playboy
                    let me educate you
                    Bums are the dudes in your sig
                    Tony was a legit contender before williams
                    since you just been watching boxing for the last few months here is a litl FYI
                    TOny was suppose to meet up with Cotto but he took the Williams fight and he lost. So he was a legit opponent for anyone
                    just ask FLoyd. FLoyd chose not to fight him for some reason or another.

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                    • Vasyl’s dad
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chuckguy
                      I think you have it mixed up playboy
                      let me educate you
                      Bums are the dudes in your sig
                      Tony was a legit contender before williams
                      since you just been watching boxing for the last few months here is a litl FYI
                      TOny was suppose to meet up with Cotto but he took the Williams fight and he lost. So he was a legit opponent for anyone
                      just ask FLoyd. FLoyd chose not to fight him for some reason or another.

                      lol, you really have no idea.

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