The Reason I don't think Darchinyan can beat Nonito Donaire...

[Mr. Ryan]

Here is the list, and I'll go through each reason individually.

1. Footwork
2. Size
3. Intangibles
4. Speed
5. Accuracy


1) Footwork. After reviewing the first fight, I understand why Donaire was able to take advantage of the footwork. Darchinyan comes forward very flat-footed, slowly and Donaire was able to change the distance whenever Darchinyan threatened to make a move. He can feint, get Darchinyan off balance and then attack. Darchinyan was not able to get a measure of Donaire in the fight at all.

Against Kirilov, there was no movement, just walking straight back and forth and getting hit with impunity. Kirilov fought the perfect fight to get the living daylights beaten out of him by Darchinyan.

2) Size. Donaire was much bigger than Darchinyan and the increase in weight to 115 pounds will reflect that. Add that to the list of technical disadvantages and Darchinyan is in a hole already. Darchinyan is noted for his power and against Donaire, he has a disadvantage.

3) Intangibles. The first fight can only bring Donaire confidence and Darchinyan a lack thereof.

4) Speed. And this goes back to the footwork. Donaire is on his toes, can move around. Darchinyan has pick his feet up and plod into range and by the time he's in range there's a jab, a right hand and a hook waiting to greet him.

5) Accuracy. Donaire has better snap and throws straighter punches. With the distance and range changing with every half-step and feint of Darchinyan, he doesn't know where to throw and his wider shots will not reach Donaire as often as Donaire's will reach him.

My theory is that Vic Darchinyan is ill-equipped to beat Nonito Donaire.

Thoughts and Comments?

[Texanballer]

what? They already fought and Darchinyan got ktfo

edit- NVM i see what your point of the thread is.

Anyways i really dont think it matters. IMO he is going to lose tonight. And we will see what he does next

[KingArthur]

Here is the list, and I'll go through each reason individually.

1. Footwork
2. Size
3. Intangibles
4. Speed
5. Accuracy


1) Footwork. After reviewing the first fight, I understand why Donaire was able to take advantage of the footwork. Darchinyan comes forward very flat-footed, slowly and Donaire was able to change the distance whenever Darchinyan threatened to make a move. He can feint, get Darchinyan off balance and then attack. Darchinyan was not able to get a measure of Donaire in the fight at all.

Against Kirilov, there was no movement, just walking straight back and forth and getting hit with impunity. Kirilov fought the perfect fight to get the living daylights beaten out of him by Darchinyan.

2) Size. Donaire was much bigger than Darchinyan and the increase in weight to 115 pounds will reflect that. Add that to the list of technical disadvantages and Darchinyan is in a hole already. Darchinyan is noted for his power and against Donaire, he has a disadvantage.
3) Intangibles. The first fight can only bring Donaire confidence and Darchinyan a lack thereof.

4) Speed. And this goes back to the footwork. Donaire is on his toes, can move around. Darchinyan has pick his feet up and plod into range and by the time he's in range there's a jab, a right hand and a hook waiting to greet him.

5) Accuracy. Donaire has better snap and throws straighter punches. With the distance and range changing with every half-step and feint of Darchinyan, he doesn't know where to throw and his wider shots will not reach Donaire as often as Donaire's will reach him.

My theory is that Vic Darchinyan is ill-equipped to beat Nonito Donaire.

Thoughts and Comments?

THE ONLY ADVANTAGE DONAIRE HAS. Everything else, if they meet again, TRUST ME Vic will prepare for and he's itching to get his revenge. ITCHING!!!!

[Mr. Ryan]

what? They already fought and Darchinyan got ktfo

edit- NVM i see what your point of the thread is.

Anyways i really dont think it matters. IMO he is going to lose tonight. And we will see what he does next

Well, some feel he would beat Donaire in a rematch but I feel differently. I thought I'd outline it and if someone has a refutation, I'd engage them in a debate.

I agree about Darchinyan losing tonight, the same kind of one-sided action we saw in the Arce fight will ensue because of the technical flaws. Darchinyan is the kind of fighter who gets a lot of things afforded his way because of his popularity, similar to Arce, but against styles like Donaire and Mijares, he will always come up short. Darchinyan is too predictable and inaccurate, he will have a lot of trouble landing on Mijares, maybe moreso than he did against Donaire.

[Ryn0]

Also, when Vic winds his right hand up he keeps it under his chest when he throws it. It's open for more than a second plently of time for that hellacious left hook that Doanire throws.

[Mr. Ryan]

THE ONLY ADVANTAGE DONAIRE HAS. Everything else, if they meet again, TRUST ME Vic will prepare for and he's itching to get his revenge. ITCHING!!!!

You gave me nothing to debate. You essentially told me that you like Darchinyan very much and WAR DARCHINYAN!

Why do you feel Darchinyan wasn't able to land on Donaire but Donaire was able to land on Darchinyan, because of size?

[LilGizmo562]

From what I have seen from Donaire, he is capable of being p4p material in a matter of years, he does have speed,accuracy, footwork all of that, all he needs to do is make sure his new promoter puts him in the ring as much as possible, and yes I believe he will KO Darchynian again.

[mspiegelo]

a rematch would play out exactly the same way. vic is not match for nonito's skills. i dont think many people will try and promote this match-up after the embarrassing beating mijares is going to hand vic.

then, mijares can go on to fight donaire or montiel in an actual, important matchup, while arce and darcinyan can make some big bucks fighting each other in an entertaining clash of exciting, agressive styles. hopefully they can make a trilogy out of that if it is competitive....

[VERDUGO]

THE ONLY ADVANTAGE DONAIRE HAS. Everything else, if they meet again, TRUST ME Vic will prepare for and he's itching to get his revenge. ITCHING!!!!

skills,speed,power,tactics etch.......

[Mr. Ryan]

a rematch would play out exactly the same way. vic is not match for nonito's skills. i dont think many people will try and promote this match-up after the embarrassing beating mijares is going to hand vic.

then, mijares can go on to fight donaire or montiel in an actual, important matchup, while arce and darcinyan can make some big bucks fighting each other in an entertaining clash of exciting, agressive styles. hopefully they can make a trilogy out of that if it is competitive....

Top Rank is looking to cash out on Arce and feed him to Donaire, which is a complete mismatch in itself. Arce hasn't been nearly as dominant since moving up from 108, where he held a ridiculous size advantage over his opposition.

If Darchinyan is neutralized in this fight with Mijares, his marketability will drop considerably. He will most likely be relegated to safety fights IMO.