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  • tredh
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    Ring is where Mayweather belongs

    Found this a good read. What do yall think?

    Ring is where Mayweather belongs
    Wednesday, October 29, 2008
    By David Mayo
    The Grand Rapids Press

    GRAND RAPIDS -- The full-bore effort to lure Floyd Mayweather back to boxing has not advanced beyond hot rumor yet, though even in gyms in his hometown, those who claim to keep their ears to the ground say the rumblings of a comeback are not distant.

    Mayweather has validated none of this talk, mind you.

    He remains retired, to what extent anyone who is 31, newly retired from a job with high earnings potential and watching the nation's torn economic fabric with as much interest as anyone can be.

    He remains retired, to what extent anyone who remains the best at his profession, desired by promoters and fans alike and recently ripped off of $7 million in ***elry during a home invasion can be.

    His ***elry was insured.

    His youth isn't.

    Now 327 days since his last fight, with nothing scheduled for 2009 -- yet -- and the welterweight landscape undergoing a late-year transformation, the countdown on Mayweather's career silently ticks, assuming he decides to return.

    He has said he won't fight again. He has said that before.

    His adviser, Leonard Ellerbe, said there has been no reconsideration. He, too, has said that before.

    Mayweather wanted a long rest after defeating Oscar De La Hoya last year. He ended up making the Ricky Hatton fight, scored a sensational 10th-round knockout on Dec. 7, 2007, contemplated a De La Hoya rematch but, in my opinion, chose to create vacation time via retirement instead.

    Retirement is how he got glorified ham-and-eggers to quit calling his name in postfight interviews.

    Retirement is how he got promoters to quit accusing him of dodging second-rate pseudo-contenders.

    For a while, it worked. Mayweather participated in WrestleMania. He managed a mixed martial arts team in a BET television series. He starred in a Ludacris video.

    None of those pays like one big night in the ring, which surely has occurred to the prematurely retired boxer who answers to the nickname "Money."

    The De La Hoya Empire has led the comeback cry. Stung by his 2007 loss, De La Hoya's schedule got sidetracked by an opponent's whims for one of few times in his career when Mayweather spurned the rematch. So De La Hoya will fight Dec. 6 against Manny Pacquiao, who inherited the pound-for-pound mantle Mayweather abdicated but is at a potentially overwhelming size disadvantage.

    Because the all-action Filipino rarely takes a backward step, gets hit often and never has fought anybody of De La Hoya's size and power, the likelihood of an injured pound-for-pound king might be greater than that of a 12-round distance fight.

    De La Hoya, meantime, yearns for Mayweather. During his prefight press tour, he said he heard Mayweather is broke -- not that he has any such personal insight, though it certainly is the right button to push. De La Hoya also said he intends to extend his career through 2009, after his long-stated plan to retire this year.

    Richard Schaefer, chief executive officer of Golden Boy Promotions, proposes Mayweather fights next year against Shane Mosley, De La Hoya, Pacquiao and/or Hatton, the latter of whom fights under the tutelage of trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. for the first time Nov. 22, against Paulie Malinaggi.

    The Mosley fight never should happen. He dodged Mayweather off and on for 10 years, when the fight mattered. No one wants to see it now that it doesn't.

    The others all are viable, pending results of the next few weeks.

    If Mayweather doesn't care to fight under De La Hoya's banner again, other possibilities remain, with promoters he remembers well, even if not necessarily with the warm-and-fuzzies: Antonio Margarito, promoted by Bob Arum; and Paul Williams, promoted by Dan Goossen.

    Mayweather still is The Man, which doesn't matter if he really wants to stay retired.

    If he is sincere, woe be it for anyone to suggest he should fight again.

    But if this was a way to create a long-overdue vacation, it's time to get back to work.
  • deevel79
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    I think everyone will agree that the ring is where he belongs. The main thing is, in the ring against who? According to Floyd and his cult followers, he/they believe that he should take whatever fights offer him the most money while taking the least risk. As a fan of the sport, i want to see the best take on the best. Why should i care whats a good business decision for a particular fighter? Now if he were to come back and take on the challenges that the real boxing fans are calling for, then come on back Floyd. On the other hand, if he comes back to try and hustle us fans into paying to watch him put on glorified sparring sessions against mediocre competition, then he can stay his ass out the game.

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      Originally posted by deevel79
      I think everyone will agree that the ring is where he belongs. The main thing is, in the ring against who? According to Floyd and his cult followers, he/they believe that he should take whatever fights offer him the most money while taking the least risk. As a fan of the sport, i want to see the best take on the best. Why should i care whats a good business decision for a particular fighter? Now if he were to come back and take on the challenges that the real boxing fans are calling for, then come on back Floyd. On the other hand, if he comes back to try and hustle us fans into paying to watch him put on glorified sparring sessions against mediocre competition, then he can stay his ass out the game.
      The bold should go for every fighter not just PBF. I am not saying you but many peole go at PBF for the bold but do not go at others for doing the same bull****.

      I truly think he should stay retired because I don't see any true threats to him. IMO he beats everyone put in front of him.

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        Originally posted by tredh
        The bold should go for every fighter not just PBF. I am not saying you but many peole go at PBF for the bold but do not go at others for doing the same bull****.

        I truly think he should stay retired because I don't see any true threats to him. IMO he beats everyone put in front of him.
        Nobody saw Buster Douglas beating Tyson either. Or Tarver and Johnson knocking Roy the *** out. That is why u actually have to get in the ring and carry it out rather than talking about who u can, should, and will beat.

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          Originally posted by deevel79
          I think everyone will agree that the ring is where he belongs. The main thing is, in the ring against who? According to Floyd and his cult followers, he/they believe that he should take whatever fights offer him the most money while taking the least risk. As a fan of the sport, i want to see the best take on the best. Why should i care whats a good business decision for a particular fighter? Now if he were to come back and take on the challenges that the real boxing fans are calling for, then come on back Floyd. On the other hand, if he comes back to try and hustle us fans into paying to watch him put on glorified sparring sessions against mediocre competition, then he can stay his ass out the game.
          Boxing, like life, can be quite unfair. You should get paid based on risk instead of the glitz of a fighter's name, but it's not so in many cases.

          If it did work this way, where you get paid higher based on the risk factor, boxing would be so much better off.


          At the end of the day, it's the fighter's health he has to worry about...as well as paying the bills.

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          • deevel79
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            Originally posted by Benny Leonard
            Boxing, like life, can be quite unfair. You should get paid based on risk instead of the glitz of a fighter's name, but it's not so in many cases.

            If it did work this way, where you get paid higher based on the risk factor, boxing would be so much better off.


            At the end of the day, it's the fighter's health he has to worry about...as well as paying the bills.
            And that's all good, but dont complain and start crying when u get heavily criticized by the fans then. U cant avoid fighting someone who's seen as the biggest threat to your crown, so that u can fight a lesser fighter for more money, then claim to be the best! You become the best by fighting and beating the best. Not talking about it.

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            • Benny Leonard
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              Originally posted by deevel79
              Nobody saw Buster Douglas beating Tyson either. Or Tarver and Johnson knocking Roy the *** out. That is why u actually have to get in the ring and carry it out rather than talking about who u can, should, and will beat.
              Yes, this is true, but it's because people neglect the many factors that go into life/boxing.

              The vast majority don't get the inside information until afterwards.

              It always reminds of me of Robert De Niro's characer in Casino where he was the best because he knew Everything. If the player was sick, had girl trouble, how the court played, etc.

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              • TEXSTRO
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                I see a couple threats as in Margorito,Cotto,Mosley not so much and maybe Pac..Those are a couple that have a chance.. Dont count anyone one out no matter what..I.E. Hopkins/Pavlik and Cotto/Margo...I say stay out if he gonna come in here and ***** foot around..I think he knows whats in store if he returns thats why he staying out..

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                • Benny Leonard
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                  Originally posted by deevel79
                  And that's all good, but dont complain and start crying when u get heavily criticized by the fans then. U cant avoid fighting someone who's seen as the biggest threat to your crown, so that u can fight a lesser fighter for more money, then claim to be the best! You become the best by fighting and beating the best. Not talking about it.

                  Yes, this is true as well...but, at the end of the day, Money dictates a lot. And, if you say it enough, that "you are the greatest," sometimes people can be convinced over time.

                  For me, Floyd avoided the best at 147+.

                  I understand why he fought Hatton as well as Oscar. Hatton was still seen as the true Champion at 140, so Floyd finished that. For Oscar: Oscar draws the crowd which leads in return gives you a big payday and can possibly build your name up higher to make more money in the future...so it was a good fight.

                  The problem really is the amount of times fighters fight today limit them from fighting everybody that is a serious threat, so fans want you to choose the serious threats over the money fights if those money fights aren't that big of a threat compared.


                  I'm for fighters fighting the best possible opponent...but understand the business side to it as well.
                  Last edited by Benny Leonard; 10-31-2008, 10:48 AM.

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                  • El Dominicano
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                    Originally posted by deevel79
                    I think everyone will agree that the ring is where he belongs. The main thing is, in the ring against who? According to Floyd and his cult followers, he/they believe that he should take whatever fights offer him the most money while taking the least risk. As a fan of the sport, i want to see the best take on the best. Why should i care whats a good business decision for a particular fighter? Now if he were to come back and take on the challenges that the real boxing fans are calling for, then come on back Floyd. On the other hand, if he comes back to try and hustle us fans into paying to watch him put on glorified sparring sessions against mediocre competition, then he can stay his ass out the game.
                    As a real boxing fan...I would like to see Mayweather come back regardless of who he faces.

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