Bhop-RJJ, who is better overall........

[boxasmash]

Well lets see.

Roy beat hopkins
Hopkins did 20 defences with best wins over oscar and tito (roy beat tito)
Roy went to heavyweight and won a title
Roy moved up and won belts in every division while hopkins stayed in the weak middleweight division
the best fighter Roy beat (Toney) is better than the best Hopkins beat (Pavlik?)


Jones is the better fighter whichever way you look at it.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Well lets see.

Roy beat hopkins
Hopkins did 20 defences with best wins over oscar and tito (roy beat tito)
Roy went to heavyweight and won a title
Roy moved up and won belts in every division while hopkins stayed in the weak middleweight division
the best fighter Roy beat (Toney) is better than the best Hopkins beat (Pavlik?)


Jones is the better fighter whichever way you look at it.

pavlik better than oscar, and tito? not imo.

[Easy-E]

pavlik better than oscar, and tito? not imo.

Oscar at 160 is not Oscar.
see Felix Sturm.

[boxasmash]

pavlik better than oscar, and tito? not imo.

cmon, oscar? seen the size on that guy? tito aint much bigger either

[Pugilistic™]

I think accomplishment wise Hopkins slighty edges it.

But as far as skill goes it goes to Roy.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Oscar at 160 is not Oscar.
see Felix Sturm.

never said he was, but odlh even admitted he hardly trained for that fight so it's not a good comparison. odlh, and tito ARE bette fighters than pavlik. lets not forget tito and odlh moved up 6 lbs from 54 to 60, and pavlik 10 to 70! so as far as i am concerned the weight is negligable, and tito, and odlh are in fact better fighters than kelly.

[Chase8400]

A no-brainer, like I expected. Thanks guys with some sense, lol.....

[hishaam15]

Have to say Jones, not by far though...

beating Calzaghe solidifies it

[WhoreUs]

bernard hopkins is overrated.

roy jones is the most naturally gifted fighter i've seen. his physical attributes put floyd mayweather jr. to shame.

while bernard made his name off of smaller fighters coming up to challenge him , roy came up to challenge bigger fighters. roy fought at 175 , bernard fought at 160 and roy is the naturally smaller man.

roy jones. y'all musta forgot......

[MELLY-MEL...]

bernard hopkins is overrated.

roy jones is the most naturally gifted fighter i've seen. his physical attributes put floyd mayweather jr. to shame.

while bernard made his name off of smaller fighters coming up to challenge him , roy came up to challenge bigger fighters. roy fought at 175 , bernard fought at 160 and roy is the naturally smaller man.

roy jones. y'all musta forgot......

good post steve!